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drdoom222222
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PostSubject: DE 1650 Dual CAD   DE 1650 Dual CAD I_icon_minitimeWed Feb 17 2016, 09:39

DE 1650 Dual CAD

CAD1

HQ
Lhamaean                
Venom with Splinter Cannon
Total                75

Troops
5 Kabalite warriors
With a Blaster
Raider + Dark lance
Total                115

5 Kabalite warriors
Sybarite (warlord)
Haywire grenade
Raider
Total                110

Fast
Venom with Splinter Cannon Total 65
Venom with Splinter Cannon Total 65

Heavy
1 Ravager with 3 Dark Lances Total 125
1 Ravager with 3 Dark Lances Total 125
1 Ravager                Total 110

CAD2

HQ
Lhamaean
Venom with Splinter Cannon
Total                75

Troops
5 Kabalite warriors
With a Blaster
Raider + Dark lance
Total               115

5 Kabalite warriors
With a Blaster
Raider + Dark lance
Total               115

Fast
Venom with Splinter Cannon Total 65
Venom with Splinter Cannon Total 65
Venom with Splinter Cannon Total 65

Heavy
1 Ravager with 3 Dark Lances Total 125
1 Ravager with 3 Dark Lances Total 125
1 Ravager                Total 110

Overall Total 1650

What do people think? Is it competitive/ semi competitve? obviously flyer will be an issue but that's nothing new. I was debating between putting in all the empty venoms or putting in 2 razorwings with D.lances which might still be an option.

Here's the variant wit the razorwings -

CAD1
HQ
Lhamaean
Venom with Splinter Cannon
Total 75

Troops
5 Kabalite warriors
With a Blaster
Raider + Dark lance
Total 115

5 Kabalite warriors
Sybarite (warlord)
Haywire grenade
Raider
Total 110

Fast
Razorwing with Dark lances Total 140

Venom with Splinter Cannon Total 65

Heavy
1 Ravager with 3 Dark Lances Total 125
1 Ravager with 3 Dark Lances Total 125
1 Ravager Total 110

CAD2

HQ
Lhamaean
Venom with Splinter Cannon
Total 75

Troops
5 Kabalite warriors
With a Blaster
Raider + Dark lance
Total 115

5 Kabalite warriors
Raider
Total 95

Fast
Razorwing with Dark lances Total 140

Heavy
1 Ravager with 3 Dark Lances Total 125
1 Ravager with 3 Dark Lances Total 125
1 Ravager Total 110

Overall Total 1650
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PostSubject: Re: DE 1650 Dual CAD   DE 1650 Dual CAD I_icon_minitimeWed Feb 17 2016, 23:23

They both seem like fairly good options, if you're experienced with their playstyles.

The first one has a huge number of vehicles that all start in play, and an ungodly amount of shooting, so it gets a tick for target and threat saturation. It does have a marked weakness to air, as you mention. You can play around this, but if you ever draw a card asking you to kill an aircraft, you're going to hate the lack of aircraft yourself.

The second one is more finicky, because asides from Dissies, the main anti-infantry capabilities come in turn 2 at the earliest, have no reserves manipulation, and are only One-Shot missiles. The platforms they're on also want to shoot at other aircraft, so their focus is going to be split a lot. It is probably a lot more balanced, but lacks the single-minded focus and raw instant dakka the first list has.

Perhaps consider a mix of the two - a list in which you include one or both Razorwings, but then switch out some of your Raiders carrying Kabalites for Venoms.

Overall, I think your current two lists are both very strong. Just giving some food for thought!

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PostSubject: Re: DE 1650 Dual CAD   DE 1650 Dual CAD I_icon_minitimeThu Feb 18 2016, 11:47

Thanks for the comments. I like the first one for the sheer amount of shots it puts out but the other feels... god help us, a more sensible option as it helps against other flyers (as much as our flyers can that is.) Its very tight on points and I also would like to keep all the ravagers in the list if possible, but I liked your suggestion of combining the two lists so......

CAD1
HQ
Lhamaean
Venom with Splinter Cannon
Total 75

Troops
5 Kabalite warriors
Venom with Splinter Cannon
Total 105

5 Kabalite warriors
Sybarite (warlord)
Raider with Dark lance
Total 110

Fast
Razorwing with Dark lances Total 140

Venom with Splinter Cannon Total 65

Heavy
1 Ravager with 3 Dark Lances Total 125
1 Ravager with 3 Dark Lances Total 125
1 Ravager Total 110

CAD2

HQ
Lhamaean
Venom with Splinter Cannon
Total 75

Troops

5 Kabalite warriors
Venom with Splinter Cannon
Total 105

5 Kabalite warriors
With a Blaster
Raider + Dark lance
Total 115


Fast
Razorwing with Dark lances Total 140

Heavy
1 Ravager with 3 Dark Lances Total 125
1 Ravager with 3 Dark Lances Total 125
1 Ravager Total 110

Overall Total 1650
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PostSubject: Re: DE 1650 Dual CAD   DE 1650 Dual CAD I_icon_minitimeFri Feb 19 2016, 01:08

Yes, I think it is probably stronger than both of your earlier lists.

I agree with your comment on Ravagers - they're really an all or nothing option, so we tend to play 0, 3, or 6 of them, depending on how many CAD's we're playing and what playstyle we're adopting ie how many Dark Artisans and Grotesqueries we squeezed in lol.

Sadly, even with the extra airborne dark lances, you'll probably still struggle with enemy fliers. Our anti air capabilities are mediocre at best. Good luck!

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PostSubject: Re: DE 1650 Dual CAD   DE 1650 Dual CAD I_icon_minitimeFri Feb 19 2016, 10:28

its an option, its not a very good option, but its the only option us Pure DE players have.Sad

If the razorwing's gets the opponent flyer to jink its a good day, anything else is gravy.Smile

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