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Nariaklizhar
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PostSubject: My 500pt List   My 500pt List I_icon_minitimeFri Nov 13 2015, 18:00

I'm currently running the following in a small tournament with friends (Tau, Ultramarines, Dark Angels, Necrons, Harlequins, and Tyranids).

HQ (75pts)
Archon (75pts) with Blaster (15pts), Close Combat Weapon, Kabalite Armour

Troops (210pts)
5x Kabalite Warrior (40pts)
    Transport: Venom (65pts) with Splinter Cannon (10pts)
5x Kabalite Warrior (40pts)
   Transport: Venom (65pts) with Splinter Cannon (10pts)

Fast Attack (90pts)
4x Scourge (64pts)
1x Scourge with Haywire blaster (10pts)

Heavy Support (125pts)
Ravager (125pts) with Dark Lance (5pts), Dark Lance (5pts), Dark Lance (5pts)

(Created with Battlescribe)

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PostSubject: Re: My 500pt List   My 500pt List I_icon_minitimeFri Nov 20 2015, 20:11

I like everything but the scourge. And also the archon the more I look at it. 500pts, you may want to consider a Lhamean in a venom. Then a 5 man warrior with blaster unit in raider with dl (get rid of a warrior in Venom unit)
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PostSubject: Re: My 500pt List   My 500pt List I_icon_minitimeSat Nov 21 2015, 01:36

The reason I'm doing two Troops & Scourges is for the Realspace Raider Detachment, is that not wise? I'm still relatively new, but can Lhameans count as sole HQ choices?

Thank you for the input Smile
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PostSubject: Re: My 500pt List   My 500pt List I_icon_minitimeSat Nov 21 2015, 02:15

The general consensus is that yes, you can use a court of the archon as your hq, you just forfeit your warlord trait (unless you pay for a character like a sybrite or something)

What's your rationale for the real space raider detachment? I would just stick with CAD
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PostSubject: Re: My 500pt List   My 500pt List I_icon_minitimeSun Nov 22 2015, 16:27

I just imagined that the "Hunt from Shadows" rule seemed pretty strong, especially since DE are so flimsy.

I can't see anything about a Sybarite being able to have a warlord trait in the Codex. How did you find that out?

If the real space raider detachment isn't that strong, would it be wise to look into a Lhamean with 4 Incubi in a Venom?
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PostSubject: Re: My 500pt List   My 500pt List I_icon_minitimeSun Nov 22 2015, 16:56

The court of an archon is a unit and not a collection of independent charters, and as such they cannot join other units. So the lamia +incubus is impossible.

And for the warlord rules, check the rulebook. Any character in your army can be the warlord. If you have no characters then a non-character models become warlord. If the warlord is a non-character model, then no warlord trait.

The “hunt from shadows” rule may look strong I short while, until you realize that the coversave this rule grant you does not stack with any other coversave. So if you choose to jink, are behind a building or have any coversave at all. This rule is useless. So I recommend using a normal CAD because of objective secured for troops, and the reroll of the warlordtrait.
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PostSubject: Re: My 500pt List   My 500pt List I_icon_minitimeFri Nov 27 2015, 16:04

Talos wrote:
So I recommend using a normal CAD because of objective secured for troops, and the reroll of the warlordtrait.

Thanks for the help. So do you agree with the scourge choice?
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PostSubject: Re: My 500pt List   My 500pt List I_icon_minitimeFri Nov 27 2015, 16:51

The scourges are fine, though I would lose the single HWB if I were you. 5 blasters can serve as both AT and AI, and at 500 points you won't run into too many vehicles.
I'm also curious where you'll put your Archon, as there's no room for him in the Venoms.
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PostSubject: Re: My 500pt List   My 500pt List I_icon_minitimeWed Dec 02 2015, 13:45

DingK wrote:
I'm also curious where you'll put your Archon, as there's no room for him in the Venoms.

This is another problem I'm facing which is why I'll probably use one of the Venoms to transport 4 Incubi + Archon and drop the Scourges completely. Then unfortunately one of my 5 man squads are going to have to walk...
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PostSubject: Re: My 500pt List   My 500pt List I_icon_minitimeWed Dec 02 2015, 16:36

How about this:
Archon with blaster

5 warriors with blaster in raider with Lance and night shield.. Archon rides here

5 warriors in venom with 2 cannons

1 empty venom with 2 cannons

1 ravager with 3 lances

Good antitank with the ravager and the mini ravager with the Archon. Good anti infantry with the venoms
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PostSubject: Re: My 500pt List   My 500pt List I_icon_minitimeThu Dec 03 2015, 21:46

Thanks for the help. I really appreciate it! What's your beef with the incubi? Wink I would have expected them to be stronger anti-infantry.
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PostSubject: Re: My 500pt List   My 500pt List I_icon_minitimeTue Dec 08 2015, 01:54

that's an interesting 500 pt list Nariak. I like it. (Not sure how I feel about raiders but I just like Venoms because they're easier to hide)
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PostSubject: Re: My 500pt List   My 500pt List I_icon_minitimeTue Dec 08 2015, 04:31

Incubi are fine, in fact I use them in larger games, 1500 and higher. IMO, a 500 pts, they are too expensive. I have used the above 500pt list, and similar versions of it, alot when I first started playing. I try to max lances, that's my strategy. The suggested list allows for good expansion to a 1000pt list an beyond
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PostSubject: Re: My 500pt List   My 500pt List I_icon_minitimeTue Dec 08 2015, 06:01

I run Drazhar in every list Wink (My fluff makes it so. You see, my archon was a previous Klaivex. you can read about it in the Kabals of the Dark City side. I'm a really fluffy player)

I agree with Nariak, Incubi are great at larger points. I bring Drazhar, a Klaivex, and 3 incubi in a venom with duel cannons.
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PostSubject: Re: My 500pt List   My 500pt List I_icon_minitimeWed Dec 09 2015, 00:23

fast units that can to everything win 500pts

if im taking scourges i take them with blasters, cuz you never know when that 2+ unit shows up. also mass venoms wins :p , if you have reavers they will never catch you ;D
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PostSubject: Re: My 500pt List   My 500pt List I_icon_minitimeFri Dec 11 2015, 13:07

Thanks for all the help guys! With Naraik's Build I'm at 485 points. Should I fill with more Kabalite Warriors in the Raider?
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PostSubject: Re: My 500pt List   My 500pt List I_icon_minitimeFri Dec 11 2015, 16:16

I would just put night shields on the archons raider. I usually don't like paying for extras, but in this case, I think it's fine. Plus it puts you exactly a 500!
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PostSubject: Re: My 500pt List   My 500pt List I_icon_minitimeWed Jan 13 2016, 12:01

Sorry for the late reply. I've been painting like a madman ahaha. So with the night shields on the raider, I'm at 500pts exactly now. Though I'm quite tempted to swap the Kabalite with a blaster for a standard one and use the remaining 15 pts on Splinter Racks on the raider. What do you think? It looks like Splinter Racks are quite OP at the moment but is it worth it if the raider isn't full?
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