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LanceDarkstrong
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PostSubject: Help plz. 750 point escalation list   Help plz. 750 point escalation list I_icon_minitimeSun Aug 02 2015, 09:15

Hey guys. So... I have a dilemma that I think is an interesting discussion. Curious what the greater minds of the Dark City think. It's the second round of my first ever escalation tournament. 750 points we are using the ITC mission where kill points is Mission A and... you know... Maelstromish things for mission 2. All that said I'm torn on 2 VERY different takes.

List 1:
Dark Artisan Formation:
1 Talos with Ichor Injector
1 Chronos
1 Haemunculous

CAD
Lhamean Venom with the SC upgrade.
5 warriors 1 blaster in a venom with SC upgrade
5 warriors 1 blaster in a venom with SC upgrade
Ravager with 3 dark lances

still have about 10 points ish to play with.

List 2:
CAD
Lhamean in a venom with SC upgrade
5 warriors 1 blaster in a venom with SC upgrade
5 warriors 1 blaster in a venom with SC upgrade
5 warriors 1 blaster in a venom with SC upgrade Sabrite upgrade <for WL as required by the tournament>
3 Reavers with 1 Caltrops
Ravager with 1 dark lance and 2 dissy
Ravager with 1 dark lance and 2 dissy

Basically venom spam or... what amounts to be a death star... if not a death star a definite tough nut to crack.

Please guys give me a hand with this. I do like either list and I'm looking for some direction. If you have other ideas that are similar to what I've got going on here please feel free to drop that too.

Thanks guys.
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PostSubject: Re: Help plz. 750 point escalation list   Help plz. 750 point escalation list I_icon_minitimeSun Aug 02 2015, 10:21

I've never used that formation, so I'd go with the Kabal version.
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PostSubject: Re: Help plz. 750 point escalation list   Help plz. 750 point escalation list I_icon_minitimeSun Aug 02 2015, 13:19

I like the idea of the first list better however it's a pretty low model count. Plus I think the second list has more killy ability. I'd go with list 2 but take 6 reavers with 2 caltropsand have 1 ravager with all dl
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PostSubject: Re: Help plz. 750 point escalation list   Help plz. 750 point escalation list I_icon_minitimeSun Aug 02 2015, 16:24

Yeah low model count was part of my concern for the first list. At what point does it become reasonable to take an expensive durable unit like the Artisan or Corpsethief Claw. Like.... points wise a CTC at 1850 takes up about as much points percentage as the Dark Artisan does here... I guess the dark artisan probably IS less impactful... idk. This game is hard.
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PostSubject: Re: Help plz. 750 point escalation list   Help plz. 750 point escalation list I_icon_minitimeSun Aug 02 2015, 17:15

Haha, it can be hard yes. One of my favorite aspects if this game though is army list building, probably because its so challenging. The DA and the CTC formation have different roles though. Yes they both soak up huge amounts of attension, but the CTC is much better at shooting. Also some would argue that the CTC is over priced a bit. An affordable DA , even at 1850 pts allows for more points spent elsewhere. Personally, DA would be fine, in fact advantages, at games above 1250. CTC anything over 1850. Let me also say that my numbers are probably skwed a bit as I don't play coven themed armies all to much. I stick to fast Kabalite DL heavy style lists
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PostSubject: Re: Help plz. 750 point escalation list   Help plz. 750 point escalation list I_icon_minitimeSun Aug 02 2015, 17:23

Fair. Thanks for your thoughts on it. I have similar thoughts to yours. Being mobile and having a ton of inexpensive hard hitting boats with friends inside is a good M.O. I have a few friends that I really respect who think that at 750 no one will have an answer to the Dark Artisan. Which maybe true. But a good player with a shooty army can just ignore the DA, blow my other small number of squishy guys off the board and take over from there. Does not seem like where I want to be.
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PostSubject: Re: Help plz. 750 point escalation list   Help plz. 750 point escalation list I_icon_minitimeSun Aug 02 2015, 17:53

I play a ton of 1000pt games. And at this point level, granted yours us 750, any if the death star units u just ignore. For example: Tyranid player the other day with a flyrant an a bunch of other MCs. I basically left the flyrant alone and just played to the mission. I didn't have anything to really deal with a flyer. I would have spent too many resources and too much time fighting at something that yes is a threat, but still only 1 model. I think your opponents would be afraid of the DA at 750 pts and just leave it alone. It's like going all in with pocket aces. Most people will just fold. You kind have to bait your opponent a bit. A unit of Grots in a raider is under 200 pts. Cheaper and still a threat that will attract enough attention away from your other units. Which is what I'm guessing the DA in your first list was for
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PostSubject: Re: Help plz. 750 point escalation list   Help plz. 750 point escalation list I_icon_minitimeSun Aug 02 2015, 19:55

Mneh. Not sure I believe in "distraction" units. If you have a unit that's best use is to distract then you have to rely on your opponent to be poor at target priority.
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