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Norrin
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PostSubject: 1750 with allied CWE   1750 with allied CWE I_icon_minitimeFri May 29 2015, 22:08

I am going for a mostly null deploy force right now. I know it is risky, but I only ever play friendly games, and I do not mind taking the risk... and I think it could potentially pay off well. But I am short my total by 19 points. Going over by a couple points is acceptable, but I do not want to go crazy.
The Succubus is my WL. She has the Incubi as her body guard. The Autarch is there because he can be a bad mamajama in CC, and as such, he will fight with my Grotesques as my melee fist. The Farseer because, well, I have been playing all DE until now and I just want to actually participate in the psychic phase for once. I figure making him highly mobile is a good thing, so he will ride with one of my Reaver units. The Rangers are there to hide first turn and not auto lose the game.
Because I am basing this on a bit of fluff I have created, there will be no wraith units, and no Avatar.
THe main force is a CAD. The CWE are an allied detachment.
Here is the list. Comments and suggestions, especially towards filling in that last 20 points (ish) are greatly appreciated!

HQ:

Succubus glaive, armour of misery 110

Autarch mandiblaster, shard of anaris 120

Farseer Skyrunner singing spear, spirit stone of anath'lan 120



Elites:


4 Incubi one upgraded to a Klaivex
venom splinter cannon 90 + 65 = 155

4 Grotesques
raider, enhanced aethersails 140 + 60 = 200


Troops:


5 Kabalite Warriors, 1 with blaster.
Venom, splinter cannon 55 + 65 = 120


10 Kabalite Warriors, 1 withblaster
raider with dissies, splinter racks 95 + 65 = 160


5 Rangers 60


Fast Attack:
1 Razorwing dark lances splinter cannon 150



3 Reavers blaster, cluster caltrops 73


3 Reavers blaster, cluster caltrops 73





Heavy Support:


3 Falcons with Bright lances 390






TOTAL: 1731

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PostSubject: Re: 1750 with allied CWE   1750 with allied CWE I_icon_minitimeSat May 30 2015, 14:25

You said that the warlord is your Succubus and will have the Incubi as her body guard. I'm assuming the plan is to run the Incubi in the venom but it only has a transport capacity of 5, there isn't any room for the succubus to ride with all of the Incubi so she would end up being deployed alone.
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PostSubject: Re: 1750 with allied CWE   1750 with allied CWE I_icon_minitimeSat May 30 2015, 14:36

Ahh my bad.. sorry it should read that one of the 4 Incubi has been upgraded to a klaivex.  I wanted to have a character there to take challenges that I do not want my Succubus dirtying her hands with.
Edited to be more clear.

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PostSubject: Re: 1750 with allied CWE   1750 with allied CWE I_icon_minitimeSat May 30 2015, 15:58

No problem, I do the same thing (have a succubus with 3 Incubi+1 Klaivex as her bodyguard), I add in the Klaivex for the challenge and also because I tend to be charging them into larger forces and he has rampage.
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PostSubject: Re: 1750 with allied CWE   1750 with allied CWE I_icon_minitimeSat May 30 2015, 16:05

I may be wrong but in an allied detachment i think you can only have 1 HQ. So you will have to choose between a Autarch or the Farseer.
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PostSubject: Re: 1750 with allied CWE   1750 with allied CWE I_icon_minitimeSat May 30 2015, 16:16

jables you are right! I have been misreading that all along! The chart itself in the BRB shows a grey pane behind the required HQ slot, but the text under optional does not show an HQ slot.

Very well! I will have to rethink it. I guess no farseer. Boo... I was hoping for some psychic stuff. I need to keep the Autarch though.. I am including him (or her.. havent got the mini yet.. may make it an all femme command) for the Path of Command.. want a better level of control over my reserve rolls.

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PostSubject: Re: 1750 with allied CWE   1750 with allied CWE I_icon_minitimeSat May 30 2015, 16:18

I just looked it up myself, it also says under the chart that you can only have 1 heavy support despite the chart itself showing 3 grey panes...
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PostSubject: Re: 1750 with allied CWE   1750 with allied CWE I_icon_minitimeSat May 30 2015, 16:20

In this case my HS is a vehicle squadron.

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PostSubject: Re: 1750 with allied CWE   1750 with allied CWE I_icon_minitimeSat May 30 2015, 16:22

Oops, forgot that they could be taken as a squadron.
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PostSubject: Re: 1750 with allied CWE   1750 with allied CWE I_icon_minitimeSat May 30 2015, 16:23

for the psychic you could have a warlock in a windriders unit, or take out the rangers and have 2 units of windriders with warlocks and then you only 2 pts over with still having a mobile psychic.
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PostSubject: Re: 1750 with allied CWE   1750 with allied CWE I_icon_minitimeSat May 30 2015, 16:40

Curst: Yeah.. interestingly I saw the HS limitations but did not see the HQ limitation. I was glad for the Falcon squadron. It is like a unit of deepstriking tanks with a webway portal I mean, not according to fluff, of course, but for all intents and purposes.. no scattr DS. That is bad ass.

jables: thank you for the suggestion! I will play around with that possibility! I do like the windriders.. almost as much as the reavers. I still want to keep the rangers, though... I am basinng the list around my fluffyness (a group of outcast and renegade DE and Eldar working together to smash up Chaos) and Rangers are really the epitome of the Outcast in the CWE. Plus, they will be hard to get at in one turn (if I do it right, and have a bit o luck), so they will be my way of making sure I do not lose 1st turn by not having anything else on the table. I could to a scalpel squadron.. maybe I might in the future, but in my brain, the rangers are more a propos than a coven formation.

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PostSubject: Re: 1750 with allied CWE   1750 with allied CWE I_icon_minitimeSat May 30 2015, 16:48

A problem I am seeing with the list is a very limited ability to deal with the heavier armour. The pulse lasers are great... multi purpose str 8 ap 2, two shots each. But for anything heavier, I only have the 3 bright lances. Still I suppose at 1750 points that isn't awful. Just.. I seem to fight a lot of chaos, and I want to be sure to nail the land raiders properly.

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PostSubject: Re: 1750 with allied CWE   1750 with allied CWE I_icon_minitimeSat May 30 2015, 17:02

you have a bit more ant tank then that, form the dark light weapons you have scatted around. You could get rid of the splinter cannon on the Razorwing and give all of the raiders Dark Lances. Which are just as good as bright lances for dealing with land raiders.
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PostSubject: Re: 1750 with allied CWE   1750 with allied CWE I_icon_minitimeSat May 30 2015, 17:07

This is true!
Ahh.. the balancing act between anti armour and anti infantry Very Happy

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