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The_Burning_Eye
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PostSubject: Darkzilla 1850 list   Darkzilla 1850 list I_icon_minitimeTue Mar 03 2015, 14:49

Hey all, so I've been thinking about theming lists and have started a topic here to cover the basic principles of what I'm talking about.

This list focuses on getting as many monstrous creatures into a list as I can (within reason - no more than two of each type of formation)

Corpsethief Claw
3 Talos with twin heat lances & ichor injectors
2 Talos with chain flails

Dark Artisan 1
Cronos with spirit probe
Haemonculus with WWP, panacea perverted
Talos with ichor injector

Dark Artisan 2
Cronos with spirit probe
Haemonculus with WWP, vexator mask

Grotesquerie
Haemonculus with WWP, stinger pistol, flesh gauntlet
5 Grotesques + Aberration (haemonculus in here)
3 Grotesques

So the obvious flaws here are no anti air at all, and may struggle against a real mech list. But what do you think, tough enough to face pretty much most armies?

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PostSubject: Re: Darkzilla 1850 list   Darkzilla 1850 list I_icon_minitimeTue Mar 03 2015, 15:33

I thought about a similar list.
Suggestions: Bring one single chronos to run behind the corpsethief claw for feel no pain. I don't know if you can still put up a aegis in no-mans land, but if, then scout them in there (bring an aegis with comms). Turn two, the cronos should be on the aegis and you should be able to re-roll reserve rolls. Thats about my raw plan so far...

On second thought, all your DAs should make a 4+ feel no pain likely on turn two. So you don't need the additional cronos. Still, some kind of reserve manipulation should be in there.
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PostSubject: Re: Darkzilla 1850 list   Darkzilla 1850 list I_icon_minitimeTue Mar 03 2015, 17:09

Difficulty is getting reserve manipulation into the list - you can't take an aegis without taking a CAD because there's no fortification slot, which scuppers a lot of points from the list, you'd need to drop at least the grotesquerie to fit one in.

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PostSubject: Re: Darkzilla 1850 list   Darkzilla 1850 list I_icon_minitimeTue Mar 03 2015, 17:20

I would think you'd want sump on the Haemy escorting the Grots in case of fleet, and therefore drop Vexator and put sump on the Grot guy. But I like Vexator. Also, I would try to fit a scissorhand on the Aberration. This is all mostly personal preference though, but I haven't heard many good things about the heat lances on the Talos, so you might want to experiment with those.
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PostSubject: Re: Darkzilla 1850 list   Darkzilla 1850 list I_icon_minitimeTue Mar 03 2015, 17:53

I do love my heat lances. I wouldn't normally put them on talos due to range considerations but I'm less worried with the corpsethief as they start that bit closer. Haywire still probably makes more sense but it's less flexible, at least the heat lances can threaten stuff that isn't armour.

Plan.

Well the main idea for the list was to scare the bejeezus out of the opponent, I think planting 9 monstrous creatures and two units of multi-wound elites on the table would do that to me (I'm thinking of the time I faced 9 carnifexes, I was pretty nervous!).

The corpsethief is deployed and scouted front and centre to dominate the centre of the battlefied, with hopefully some objectives scattered in no man's land for them to either claim or contest.

The small grotesque unit is kept in normal reserve to walk on from my own table edge once they've got fearless to deal with any threats in my own deployment zone, then the two dark artisans and the big grotesque unit webway in to pin the enemy into place, hopefully tying up nasty units, squeezing the enemy into the face of the corpsethief. If ever you've seen Zulu, very much like the horns of the buffalo tactic described.

@Lord Mal - I agree with you about the sump, I may look to juggle a few things around to squeeze it in, possibly drop the heat lance Talos down to 2 as they're twin linked.

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PostSubject: Re: Darkzilla 1850 list   Darkzilla 1850 list I_icon_minitimeTue Mar 03 2015, 23:18

I love your list. I'm a huge fan of the Coven formations and with what Mushkilla has been doing, I'm encouraged to see more all Coven armies out there experimenting with what the limits of the supplement can be. The only minor suggestion I have for your list is without reserve manipulation, you are risking 3/4 of your army not being able to do what they're built for, CC, until turn three at the earliest. I would start either one DA on the table to back up the Corpsethief and also give them the 4+FNP, re-rolling ones with your Warlord. Or Start everything on the table and just march up the board en masse as a wall of MCs and mini-MCs that will all have 4+NP and Fearless. In fact, I like this option better the more I think about it. You will have a massive board presence with two inch spacing and with smart objective placement, you can easily control a lot of them each turn working as a cohesive army instead of chancing your arrival in piecemeal fashion.
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PostSubject: Re: Darkzilla 1850 list   Darkzilla 1850 list I_icon_minitimeTue Mar 03 2015, 23:39

Cheers sweetbacon - of course the main problem is that I need another 7 talos to be able to run it, but it's definitely something I'm going to be looking to collect (this year if possible!)

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