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PostSubject: Double CAD 1500 - Themed/Competative   Double CAD 1500 - Themed/Competative I_icon_minitimeTue Feb 17 2015, 16:42

I thought of the idea of running two CAD each led by a Dracon from the same Kabal competing against one another on raids into realspace. The Archon sends two of his court to watch over the raid in his stead.

CAD 1

HQ 75
Lhamaean, Venom (Splinter Cannon)
75

Elite 180
5x Trueborn (4x Blaster, Dracon), Raider (Dark Lance, Aethersails)
180

Troop 360
5x Warriors (Blaster), Venom (Splinter Cannon)
120
5x Warriors (Blaster), Venom (Splinter Cannon)
120
5x Warriors (Blaster), Raider (Dark Lance, Aethersails)
120

Heavy Support 140
Ravager (3 Dark Lances)
140

CAD 2

HQ 75
Lhamaean, Venom (Splinter Cannon)
75

Elite 180
5x Trueborn (4x Blaster, Dracon), Raider (Dark Lance, Aethersails)
180

Troop 360
5x Warriors (Blaster), Venom (Splinter Cannon)
120
5x Warriors (Blaster), Venom (Splinter Cannon)
120
5x Warriors (Blaster), Raider (Dark Lance, Aethersails)
120

Heavy Support 140
Ravager (3 Dark Lances)
140


750 each
1500 total



At first each list had no Trueborn or Lhamaen and instead was led by a lone Archon in a Venom and had a third warrior squad in a venom each. But adjusting for the theme I changed it. I know that now I don't have to run double CAD.

So what im asking is if it would be better to have each CAD led by an Archon Blaster in a Venom, or keep it like this?

a.k.a.. for each 750 points..

2 CAD with Archon (Blaster) + 5 Warriors (Blaster)

vs

1 CAD with Lhamaean (Venom) + Trueborn (4 Blasters, Dracon)

(each list will contain the same amount of venoms/raiders so its just about the occupants)


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PostSubject: Re: Double CAD 1500 - Themed/Competative   Double CAD 1500 - Themed/Competative I_icon_minitimeTue Feb 17 2015, 17:54

well sicne I dont think its legal to use just a Lhamaean, I'd say Archon.

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PostSubject: Re: Double CAD 1500 - Themed/Competative   Double CAD 1500 - Themed/Competative I_icon_minitimeTue Feb 17 2015, 18:22

Interpretation of the rules aside, which would you believe to be more effective?

Im leaning more towards the Trueborn option as I feel the list is a little light on AT. But the points sink into one unit im uneasy about. Going with the Archon I will have my points spread out more evenly through the army.
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PostSubject: Re: Double CAD 1500 - Themed/Competative   Double CAD 1500 - Themed/Competative I_icon_minitimeWed Feb 18 2015, 18:13

Why the Dracons? Yes you need a character for a warlord but the trueborn are already a high priority target, I'd go with a sybarite instead (and as an added bonus it increases the Ld of his squad).

Did you forget to list night shields on the Ravagers? The way you have them listed they should be 125 not 140.

Is the Double CAD part of the theme? Because I'm not seeing the point of it really. I'd prob go with something more like this, especially if you're worried about not enough anti-tank:

2 Lhameans, Venom, cannon - 85 (if having 2 is needed for the theme)
5 Trueborn, 4 blasters, Raider, lance, Night Shield - 190
5 Trueborn, 4 blasters, Raider, lance, Night Shield - 190
5 Warriors, blaster, sybarite (Warlord), Haywire, Raider, Lance, Night Shield - 145
5 Warriors, blaster, sybarite, Haywire, Raider, Lance - 130
5 Warriors, blaster, sybarite, Haywire, Venom, Cannon - 135
5 Warriors, blaster, sybarite, Haywire, Venom, Cannon - 135
5 Warriors, blaster, Venom, Cannon - 120
5 Warriors, blaster, Venom, Cannon - 120
Ravager, 3 Lances - 125
Ravager, 3 Lances - 125

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PostSubject: Re: Double CAD 1500 - Themed/Competative   Double CAD 1500 - Themed/Competative I_icon_minitimeWed Feb 18 2015, 18:59

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Why the Dracons? Yes you need a character for a warlord but the trueborn are already a high priority target, I'd go with a sybarite instead (and as an added bonus it increases the Ld of his squad).
The Dracon is part of the theme, as with the double CAD. I planned on keeping the Trueborn in reserve riding on a venom. This way I can also keep all my Dark Lances on the board turn one.

I've taken into consideration some things and made some adjustments. First, to explain more about the theme, my kabal is the Bloodied Claw from the OG codex. In the back of the book there is a story about the Archon Akhara'keth and a Dracon Khirareq. This is how i'm painting and building my army.
I know the CAD is not necessary (in this new list below i can ditch one troop choice for something else) but I had the idea of Dracon Khirareq leading one CAD (her Destroyers from the story) with a Lhamaean sent by Akhara'keth to oversee. Then have the Archon himself lead a second CAD. Each done up with their own markings/paint scheme.

Akhara'Keth CAD - 755

Archon (Blaster, Clonefield) - Venom (SC)
Warriors x5 (Blaster) - Venom (SC)
Warriors x5 (Blaster) - Venom (SC)
Warriors x5 (Blaster) - Raider (DL)
Warriors x5 (Blaster) - Raider (DL)
Ravager (3 DL)

Khirareq CAD 745

Lhamaean - Venom (SC)
Trueborn (4 Blasters, Dracon w/ HWG) - Venom (SC)
Warriors x5 (Blaster) - Venom (SC)
Warriors x5 (Blaster) - Raider (DL)
Warriors x5 (Blaster) - Raider (DL)
Ravager (3 DL)

1500
4 Raiders, 2 Ravagers and 6 Venoms at 1500 points. 10 Dark Lances over 6 units, 12 Blasters over 8 units, 12 Splinter Cannons over 6 units.


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Did you forget to list night shields on the Ravagers? The way you have them listed they should be 125 not 140.
I did yes Razz thank you. I had them on at one point then removed them.
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PostSubject: Re: Double CAD 1500 - Themed/Competative   Double CAD 1500 - Themed/Competative I_icon_minitimeWed Feb 18 2015, 21:35

I'd definitely give the trueborn a raider (with a night shield if you can) over a venom. They still shoot just as well when their vehicle is jinking and that extra hull point and 3+ cover really helps.
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