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PostSubject: 1850 for Tourney   1850 for Tourney I_icon_minitimeSun Nov 30 2014, 23:07

HQ     Warlord
        Archon- Shadowfield,close combat Weapon,Webway portal ,Blast pistol,Plasma grenades,Haywire Grenades,Kabalite Armour 155

        Archon- Huskblade,shadowfield,Haywire Grenades, Plasma grenades,Kabalite Armour 130
       

No Force Org Slot-
          2 x Medusae
          3 x Sslyth    in Venom dual splinter cannon 190

Elite  -   Grotesques x4 in Raider nightshield DL, 195
          Kabalite trueborn 8 ,4 blaster ,Raider nightshield DL 208
       

troops -5 kabalite blaster ,dualSC venom 120
         5 kabalite blaster ,dualSC venom 120
         5 kabalite blaster ,dualSC venom 120
         5 kabalite blaster ,dualSC venom 120

fast   -  Scourges x5,3 heat-lances  110

Heavy
      Talos ,chain-flails x 2, 250
      Ravinger 3 DL    125
     
What do you think? it's turney list( rules r moustyl like for ETC),Formations r not alowed.
Blaster Archon goes with trueborn in reserve,and other Archon with Grotesques
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PostSubject: Re: 1850 for Tourney   1850 for Tourney I_icon_minitimeMon Dec 01 2014, 01:03

@Dii wrote:
HQ     Warlord
        Archon- Shadowfield,close combat Weapon,Webway portal ,Blast pistol,Plasma grenades,Haywire Grenades,Kabalite Armour 155
Why take a Blast Pistol instead of a Blaster?

@Dii wrote:
Archon- Huskblade,shadowfield,Haywire Grenades, Plasma grenades,Kabalite Armour 130
This is okay, though I will note that the Agoniser is probably the overall superior weapon to the Huskblade.
       
@Dii wrote:
          2 x Medusae
          3 x Sslyth    in Venom dual splinter cannon 190
I am okay with this, though think th epoints could be better spent.

@Dii wrote:
Elite  -   Grotesques x4 in Raider nightshield DL, 195
          Kabalite trueborn 8 ,4 blaster ,Raider nightshield DL 208
I like the Grot build - I will note that I don't think their Archon really needs a WWP - in fact, with NS on the Raider, I think they are better served starting on the table and just going flat out at their target and jinking Turn 1, and assaulting on Turn 2. Going in reserve you don't get their assault till turn 3-4 and they still get shot at for a round.

Also, if you listen to me and free up some other points I will note that an Abberation+Scissorhand really boosts the functionality of the unit.

I'll also add that, unless you love the Shadowfield, you may be better off (and again, saving of points) just to toss in a Succubus w. Glaive to the squad. She'll be affordable and hand them 5 AP 2 attacks (and 2+ saves are the Grots only real weakness) - and the Abberation can always accept any combats you don't want the Succubus to risk herself in while she picks on the rank and file.

I dislike the random extra bodies in the Trueborn squad. That squad should be shooting at mech as much as possible, so that is 5 guys doing spit all. I'd pare it down to 5 Trueborn and count myself brilliant for the choice.
       
@Dii wrote:
troops -5 kabalite blaster ,dualSC venom 120
         5 kabalite blaster ,dualSC venom 120
         5 kabalite blaster ,dualSC venom 120
         5 kabalite blaster ,dualSC venom 120
I support this.

@Dii wrote:
fast   -  Scourges x5,3 heat-lances  110
I prefer haywire, but I don't think this is bad.
As a random thought, the Archon w. Blast Pistol/Blaster actually pairs better with these guys than the Trueborn - as heatlances benefit more from pinpoint drop.

I will admit he's a bit of a hindrance to them movement wise after that, natch - but it's a thought. You really need to be in melta range to justify h.lances.

@Dii wrote:
      Talos ,chain-flails x 2, 250
      Ravinger 3 DL    125
I don't think the Talos pair well with this list - that said, if you go with them, I would recommend the ichor injector over the flails - it will help them more versus anything they aren't already wounding on a 2+ by giving you the ID threat.
     
My thoughts,
Thor.

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PostSubject: Re: 1850 for Tourney   1850 for Tourney I_icon_minitimeMon Dec 01 2014, 01:27

Ty very very much Thor,for fantastic advice and fast answer Very Happy i'm gonna consider upgrades\changes 4 list Smile

btw main problem with some stuff is because I'm going with full painted army,and also I want to look nice on table,because there r not gonna be so super painted armys Smile
I'm gonna make some changes to list,what do you think is good optinon instad of Taloses?
(btw 4 whole toureny I'm gonna wear Haemonculus mask on me Very Happy )


my army.
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PostSubject: Re: 1850 for Tourney   1850 for Tourney I_icon_minitimeMon Dec 01 2014, 02:08

It being me, I'd always just say - take more Ravagers. I think your ability to attack mech Turn 1 at range is a little weak, and more Ravagers would help increase your ability to actually cause some damage to weaken the ability of the opposing army to fire upon the assault skimmers you'll have blitzing forward.

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PostSubject: Re: 1850 for Tourney   1850 for Tourney I_icon_minitimeMon Dec 01 2014, 03:05

sorry to bother more.
but what do you think of this list?

HQ-
Archon ,Warlord,Blaster,Shadowfield 115
     Succubus(with Gro),Glave,haywire,Armour of Misery 115

Elite-
Aberration Sciss,3x Grotesques ,Raider N shields DL 235
       Trueborn x 5, 3 blasters Raider DL  160

Troops-
Kabalite 10,blaster Raider DL N shield,Splinter racks 185
          Kabalite 5,blaster Venom dulas SC  120
          Kabalite 5,blaster Venom dulas SC  120
          Kabalite 5,blaster Venom dulas SC  120
          Kabalite 5,blaster Venom dulas SC  120
          Kabalite 5,blaster Venom dulas SC  120

Heavy -
Rav 3 DL NSh 140
           Rav 3 DL NSh 140
           Voidraven Bomber 160

total 1850 ( I have models 4 this..but back to choping and making 1 more blaster,and changing one rav pulse to DL)
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PostSubject: Re: 1850 for Tourney   1850 for Tourney I_icon_minitimeMon Dec 01 2014, 04:40

BlastArchon problem solved xD
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PostSubject: Re: 1850 for Tourney   1850 for Tourney I_icon_minitimeMon Dec 01 2014, 06:10

I would drop the shadowfield on the archon and put some of those points into another blaster for your trueborn squad. That way you only have one guy in that squad doing nothing when you shot at tanks. If your worried about losing slay the warlord point b/c you dropped the shadowfield on the archon, just make the succubus the leader instead. She should be well protected in the grotesque squad. I have also been thinking about putting the bomber in one of my list but I don't like dropping a ravager. If your meta has a lot of flyers then it might be worth the swap. The problem I see with running the bomber in your list is that its the only plane. I'm afraid its going to be targeted and shot down very quickly, especially with all of those wave serpents running around. The list I'm running the bomber in has two razorwings to help with saturation. Just my thoughs.
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