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Mononcule
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PostSubject: Majority toughness - Dark Artisans   Majority toughness - Dark Artisans I_icon_minitimeSat Nov 15 2014, 00:44

Hi,

I have a question about majority toughness, Instant Death and fnp.

If a S8 weapon shoots an haemonculus (closest mode) in the Dark Artisan, the majority toughness is 7. If the wounds is applied to the haemie (failed LOS for example), will he get his fnp roll? And if the roll fails, does he suffer instant death or is his toughness still counted as 7?

I'm interested because with IWND it could be interesting to tank with the haemie S8 AP3 shooting.
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PostSubject: Re: Majority toughness - Dark Artisans   Majority toughness - Dark Artisans I_icon_minitimeSat Nov 15 2014, 02:19

Instant Death checks the toughness value of the model.
Rolls to wound are done vs. majority toughness in the target unit.

So, in your example - a S8 weapon firing at a Dark Artisan formation with the Haem closest to the shot would result in the Haem's toughness being 7, requiring a 3+ to wound, and, if successful (and considering armor/cover) he would then suffer an ID wound, not be allowed his FNP, and would be removed from play.

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PostSubject: Re: Majority toughness - Dark Artisans   Majority toughness - Dark Artisans I_icon_minitimeSat Nov 15 2014, 12:47

Thank you Thor.

It's bad news against orks rokkits (S8 AP3). I'll use a wwp portal in this case to avoid T1-T2 shooting. On the other hand, every rocket shot at the DA is not shot at the venoms, raiders and ravagers.
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PostSubject: Re: Majority toughness - Dark Artisans   Majority toughness - Dark Artisans I_icon_minitimeSat Nov 15 2014, 13:17

Take the Nightmare Doll on your Haemi. Even if you fail that 2+ LoS you can tank one IK shoot.
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PostSubject: Re: Majority toughness - Dark Artisans   Majority toughness - Dark Artisans I_icon_minitimeSat Nov 15 2014, 14:03

I think the Nightmare Doll only works on wounds with the Instant Death special rule, not shots that cause instant death through doubling out the toughness of the target.
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PostSubject: Re: Majority toughness - Dark Artisans   Majority toughness - Dark Artisans I_icon_minitimeSat Nov 15 2014, 14:56

@Caldria wrote:
I think the Nightmare Doll only works on wounds with the Instant Death special rule, not shots that cause instant death through doubling out the toughness of the target.
Shots with double strength gain the ID rule.
I think it would work fine.

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PostSubject: Re: Majority toughness - Dark Artisans   Majority toughness - Dark Artisans I_icon_minitimeSat Nov 15 2014, 15:25

Oh 0.0 I confess I did not know that.
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