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PostSubject: 1500 points vs white scars mechanized + bikes list   1500 points vs white scars mechanized + bikes list I_icon_minitimeTue Oct 21 2014, 12:27

My opponent rolls with Flamers in his vets which I will look to kill off, three scouting rhinos, that white scar chapter master dude in a unit of bikes packed with melta toting attack bikes and a couple of assault troop units.

Here's my list:

   * Archon
       (Fleet, Independent Character, Night Vision, Power from Pain)
       Blaster, Clone field, Close Combat Weapon, Kabalite Armour, Plasma Grenades


   * Succubus
       (Combat Drugs, DodgeOnly, Fleet, Independent Character, Night Vision, Power from Pain)
       Archite glaive, Haywire Grenades (Haywire), Plasma Grenades, Splinter pistol, The Armour of Misery, Webway portal, Wychsuit

   * Incubi
       (Fleet, Night Vision, Power from Pain)
       Incubus Warsuit
       * 5x Incubi
           5x Klaive
       * Raider
           (Deep Strike, Night Vision)
           Disintegrator, Nightshield

   * Kabalite Trueborn
       (Fleet, Night Vision, Power from Pain)
       Kabalite Armour
       * Kabalite Trueborn
           Close Combat Weapon, Splinter Rifle
       * Kabalite Trueborn with Special Weapon
           Blaster (), Close Combat Weapon
       * Kabalite Trueborn with Special Weapon
           Blaster (), Close Combat Weapon
       * Kabalite Trueborn with Special Weapon
           Blaster (), Close Combat Weapon
       * Kabalite Trueborn with Special Weapon (26pts)
           Blaster (), Close Combat Weapon
       * Raider ()
           (Deep Strike, Night Vision)
           Disintegrator, Nightshield ()


   * Kabalite Warriors ()
       (Fleet, Night Vision, Power from Pain)
       Kabalite Armour
       * 5x Kabalite Warrior ()
           5x Close Combat Weapon, 5x Splinter Rifle
       * Venom ()
           (Night Vision)
           Flickerfield, Splinter Cannon, Splinter Cannon ()

   * Wyches ()
       (Combat Drugs, Dodge, Fleet, Night Vision, Power from Pain)
       Wychsuit
       * Hekatrix ()
           Agoniser (), Haywire Grenades () (Haywire), Plasma Grenades, Splinter Pistol
       * Venom ()
           (Night Vision)
           Flickerfield, Splinter Cannon, Splinter Cannon ()
       * 3x Wych ()
           3x Plasma Grenades, 3x Splinter Pistol and Close Combat Weapon
       * Wych with Wych Weapon ()
           Plasma Grenades, Two razorflails () (Blade Whip)

+ Fast Attack + ()

   * Razorwing Jetfighter ()
       (Night Vision, Supersonic)
       2 Dark Lances (), 2x Monoscythe Missile, 2x Shatterfield Missile (), Splinter Cannon ()

   * Scourges ()
       (Fleet, Night Vision, Power from Pain)
       Ghostplate armour, Plasma Grenades
       * Scourge ()
           Close combat weapon, Shardcarbine
       * Scourge with Special / Heavy weapon ()
           Close combat weapon, Haywire blaster ()
       * Scourge with Special / Heavy weapon ()
           Close combat weapon, Haywire blaster ()
       * Scourge with Special / Heavy weapon ()
           Close combat weapon, Haywire blaster ()
       * Scourge with Special / Heavy weapon ()
           Close combat weapon, Haywire blaster ()

   * Talos ()
       * Talos ()
           (Fearless, Feel No Pain, Night Vision)
           Armoured Carapace, Close Combat Weapon, Ichor Injector () (Lethal Dose), Twin-Linked Splinter Cannon

   * Voidraven Bomber ()
       (Night Vision, Supersonic)
       Night shields (), Two dark scythes, Two shatterfield missiles and two implosion missiles (), Void Mine

Made with battle scribe of course.

Plan was to start with the two venoms (troops) and Talos on the table turn 1. Use the venoms speed to stay way out of trouble while the talos tanks it (probably dying in the process) turn 2 and my reserves hit their rear. He will leave his rear guarded by a single dreadnought.

The blasters deal with the dread, haywire scourges slow the rhinos with help from the flyers while the Incubi come down in cover with intention to assault turn 3/4.

What do you think? I know the natural change is to get rid of the wyches but I think they're assault grenades may be useful when assaulting marines in wrecked transports or counter attacking his assault squads.


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PostSubject: Re: 1500 points vs white scars mechanized + bikes list   1500 points vs white scars mechanized + bikes list I_icon_minitimeTue Oct 21 2014, 12:48

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PostSubject: Re: 1500 points vs white scars mechanized + bikes list   1500 points vs white scars mechanized + bikes list I_icon_minitimeTue Oct 21 2014, 12:52

I think you need to remove all point costs on each item/special rules etc to stop the forums getting into trouble with GW first!

Bike lists though, you just don't want combat with them. Trust me, my friend runs Ravenwing with flamers/meltas etc and you don't want to try and take them in CC. Talos yes, but other than that get your splinter rifles and dissies out. Overwhelming dakka gets them eventually. Force them to jink (they get 3+ I think with skilled rider?) so there shooting is minimum, and keep backing away from them. Venoms and gunboats are the beat solution. It negates his advantage of toughness 5 whilst close combat does not!

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PostSubject: Re: 1500 points vs white scars mechanized + bikes list   1500 points vs white scars mechanized + bikes list I_icon_minitimeTue Oct 21 2014, 13:38

Agh, my apologies. Will be right on it.
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PostSubject: Re: 1500 points vs white scars mechanized + bikes list   1500 points vs white scars mechanized + bikes list I_icon_minitimeTue Oct 21 2014, 17:51

My suggestion is to start with everything on the board. Also you need as many troops as possible. I run against a pure bike white scar list. The guy that runs it doesn't have the best tactical mind but with one of the best lists in the game he doesn't need to be. Troops get a 4+ cover save if it is night fighting (if you're using our detachment) so anything that does hurt you, you get a save against. Line up at the back of your deployment zone and make him come at you. Prioritize your targets and don't leave 1-2 man squads. Poison everything possible and try not to get into combat with them unless you can wipe the squad.
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PostSubject: Re: 1500 points vs white scars mechanized + bikes list   1500 points vs white scars mechanized + bikes list I_icon_minitimeTue Oct 21 2014, 17:59

Agree to the above although detachment save doesn't stack with stealth I believe so it's 5+ (not a cover save) and won't stack with cover either...sadly...
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PostSubject: Re: 1500 points vs white scars mechanized + bikes list   1500 points vs white scars mechanized + bikes list I_icon_minitimeTue Oct 21 2014, 18:13

You don't have eldar allies I realize, but one of the most potent units vs bikes are Dark Reapers. Just one five man in a venom or raider will really devastate bikes. That's ten S5 Ap3 ignores jink shots per turn with a 48 inch reach. You will execute a five man bike unit per turn.

Plus you can get an autarch for reserves and stay out of CC.
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