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PostSubject: Re: webway portal, transporters and scatter   webway portal, transporters and scatter - Page 2 I_icon_minitimeFri Oct 31 2014, 07:48

What?

A unit of DA terminators take landraider as their dedicated transport (No Deep strike rule for LR). Is the Landraider now allowed to use special rule the unit inside of it has and deepstrike behind enemy lines?


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PostSubject: Re: webway portal, transporters and scatter   webway portal, transporters and scatter - Page 2 I_icon_minitimeFri Oct 31 2014, 08:59

No - but the webway portal rules specifically confer the deepstrike rule to any transport he's embarked on (though raiders and venoms have it anyway of course)

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PostSubject: Re: webway portal, transporters and scatter   webway portal, transporters and scatter - Page 2 I_icon_minitimeFri Oct 31 2014, 09:00

@The_Burning_Eye wrote:
No - but the webway portal rules specifically confer the deepstrike rule to any transport he's embarked on (though raiders and venoms have it anyway of course)

Agreed. What it doesn't do though, is confer the 'no scatter' rule to the transport, although I believe it's certainly intended to and is merely the result of yet another writing cock up by GW.

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PostSubject: Re: webway portal, transporters and scatter   webway portal, transporters and scatter - Page 2 I_icon_minitimeFri Oct 31 2014, 10:01

@The_Burning_Eye wrote:
No - but the webway portal rules specifically confer the deepstrike rule to any transport he's embarked on (though raiders and venoms have it anyway of course)

It does? Then I need to reread the rules and make my stand anew. Thanks for pointing that out.

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PostSubject: Re: webway portal, transporters and scatter   webway portal, transporters and scatter - Page 2 I_icon_minitimeFri Oct 31 2014, 15:43

Erm, guys I just found something that sheds more light on this debate! I remembered that the splinter racks rule is written differently in the reference section at the back of the book, so I looked there and guess what I found.

Quote :
Webway portal: If in reserves or ongoing reserves, model and any unit it has joined or is embarked upon has deep strike, and will not scatter if arriving from deep strike

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PostSubject: Re: webway portal, transporters and scatter   webway portal, transporters and scatter - Page 2 I_icon_minitimeFri Oct 31 2014, 15:58

Now that is good news!!

I still want to hand the so-called 'editors' at GW over the the Haemonculi for an eternity of pain and suffering though.

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PostSubject: Re: webway portal, transporters and scatter   webway portal, transporters and scatter - Page 2 I_icon_minitimeFri Oct 31 2014, 16:03

@Count Adhemar wrote:
Now that is good news!!

I still want to hand the so-called 'editors' at GW over the the Haemonculi for an eternity of pain and suffering though.

Definitely! How they can get it clear in one place and not the other is, well, baffling!

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PostSubject: Re: webway portal, transporters and scatter   webway portal, transporters and scatter - Page 2 I_icon_minitimeFri Oct 31 2014, 23:04

I continue saying that the transport does not scatter.
Think this example, I get an archon with WWP and a venom as dedicated transport, no other unit is on the venom. The venom itself is a unit, as stated in the rules.
So the archon and his unit could only mean the archon and the venom, and neither of them scatter.
Whether this case is correct, if I take an archon with any unit on a raider, none of them scatter.
I think the first sentence includes transports only because the deep strike rule of a unit isn't shared by their transport, I don't have the RB with me but I'm pretty sure with this.
Otherwise I could DS a stormraven simply filling it with an assault jump pack unit. But I can't because the SR does not have DS.
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PostSubject: Re: webway portal, transporters and scatter   webway portal, transporters and scatter - Page 2 I_icon_minitimeFri Oct 31 2014, 23:10

@Javorra wrote:
I continue saying that the transport does not scatter.
Think this example, I get an archon with WWP and a venom as dedicated transport, no other unit is on the venom. The venom itself is a unit, as stated in the rules.

Indeed it is. But it is not the Archon's unit. And that is the problem.

Nevertheless, the matter seems to have been resolved by the version of the rule printed in the summary section so I'd suggest we all just use that to avoid any arguments.

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PostSubject: Re: webway portal, transporters and scatter   webway portal, transporters and scatter - Page 2 I_icon_minitimeSat Nov 01 2014, 09:20

Though it's different issue, can Archon join an Eldar unit embarking on Wave Serpent in reserve and then DS without scattering by means of WWP?

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PostSubject: Re: webway portal, transporters and scatter   webway portal, transporters and scatter - Page 2 I_icon_minitimeSat Nov 01 2014, 09:26

@lelith wrote:
Though it's different issue, can Archon join an Eldar unit embarking on Wave Serpent in reserve and then DS without scattering by means of WWP?

Yes. They are battle brothers so they can join units and ride in transports together and the WWP works just fine.

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