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Kahnartiste
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PostSubject: New to DE (and brand new to WH40k), wanted to start an 1850 pt army   New to DE (and brand new to WH40k), wanted to start an 1850 pt army I_icon_minitimeMon Oct 13 2014, 00:01

Hey guys!

Brand new to both warhammer and dark eldar of course, but have done lots of reading on tactics and have the codex. Wanted to see if my ideas on how to put together an army are on the right track..

Primary Detachment: Coven Coterie

Haemi (150 pt): CCW, SP, Nightmare Doll, Scissorhand, WWP...will be in the Dark Artisan Detachment
Urien Rakarth (140): Casket, Ichor Injector, CCW, Gnarlskin

4 X Grotesque (270) W/ Urien: 4x LG, 4x Flesh Guantlet, Raider DT (Aether, Shock Prow, Dissies)

Scalpel Squadron Detachment
5 X Wracks W/Acothyst (150): 1 X Ossefactor, Raider DT (dissies)
8 X Wracks (180) W/Succubus: 1 X LG, Raider DT (DL, TGL)

Dark Artisans Detachment
1 Talos (140): 1X HWB, 1x Ichor Injector, 1X CCW
1 Cronos (125): 1 x Spirit Probe, 1 x Spirit Syphon (I believe you get both right)
W/Haemonculus from above




Real Space Raiders Detachment

HQ: Succubus (110): AG, Armor of Misery, SP, PG...will be in Wrack squad above

Troops: 2 Units of 5 Warriors (4 x Warriors w/Sybarite each) -1 blaster per unit, Syb has HWG in each unit. Venom DT w/ 2 x splinter cannons ( each unit of warriors + DT are 135 pts)

Fast Attack

6 X Reavers (126): 2 X Caltrops

5 X Scourges (120): 4 X HWB

1 x Venom (65): 2 X Splinter Cannons

Total 1846


Idea is to deepstrike scalpel squad in turn 1 and get the d3 VP by softening up an infantry unit with the ossefactor, disintegrators, LG etc, and hope the unit doesnt explode by turn 2 so i can get my succubus into CC. Run my Raider with grots up the flank with cover using aether sails to prep for an assault, while sniping with the venom from back field and moving reavers up behind cover to get ready to charge vehicles with my caltrops. Warriors shoot while moving up cover and trying not to die while waiting for turn 2, but are essentially anti tank with the blasters and the HWG and are my troop tax for the detachment.

2nd turn, WWP in my dark artisan squad into cover in a juicy spot and soak fire with my 3+/4+ IWND/FNP pain engines and wreak havoc (prolly as a distraction). DS scourges hopefully, but if I dont need to I may start with them on the board turn 1 and cover jump.

What do you guys think? I'd like to have a razorwing in there but points were an issue with the succubus in as well...is keeping her a good idea? Thanks1

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skullmonkeyz
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PostSubject: Re: New to DE (and brand new to WH40k), wanted to start an 1850 pt army   New to DE (and brand new to WH40k), wanted to start an 1850 pt army I_icon_minitimeMon Oct 13 2014, 00:31

hey!

I myself didn't play a single game as DE yet, so i'm not going to comment on the effectiveness of your unit composition as is, but i will comment on the structure of your army, as i believe you might appreciate the input being new to 40K and such.

If you want to run the Coven Detachment, you need 2 HQs and 2 Elite units - you need to bear in mind that formations DO NOT occupy force organisation chart slots, for better or for worse. this means your haemonculus in the Dark Artisan formation doesn't count for the 2 HQs you'd be needing in order to have a legal Coven Detachment.

Furthermore, the Scalpel Squadron specifically states you need 2 units of wracks in venoms to use this formation. wracks are minimum size 5, venoms have maximum transport capacity 5, so you won't be able to put your succubus with them.

i hope this helped you out a little bit, if at least army-structure wise!

welcome to warhammer 40k! Smile
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PostSubject: Re: New to DE (and brand new to WH40k), wanted to start an 1850 pt army   New to DE (and brand new to WH40k), wanted to start an 1850 pt army I_icon_minitimeMon Oct 13 2014, 00:52

Thanks that's really helpful to know! I had a feeling that was too easy Sad on the topic I of ICs, can any IC join Any squad if it's data slate doesn't have requirements (like Ik drahzar has to join incubi), but my succubus doesn't have to join wyches right?
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PostSubject: Re: New to DE (and brand new to WH40k), wanted to start an 1850 pt army   New to DE (and brand new to WH40k), wanted to start an 1850 pt army I_icon_minitimeMon Oct 13 2014, 00:54

you're welcome Wink
exactly, unless otherwise stated, as for example in the Dark Artisan formation, an independant character can join any unit he or she wishes, for example succubi go nicely with incubi because of the AP2 weapons. unfortunately, incubi don't have assault grenades anymore, or rather no way of getting them within the dark eldar codex, but that's a wholly different topic Smile
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PostSubject: Re: New to DE (and brand new to WH40k), wanted to start an 1850 pt army   New to DE (and brand new to WH40k), wanted to start an 1850 pt army I_icon_minitimeMon Oct 13 2014, 01:48

yea thats pretty bs. Another few questions, if I assault a unit who is in cover from a direction they dont have cover in (behind them lets say), do I still strike at I 1 w/o grenades? And if I assault a unit from behind do they still get overwatch against me?
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PostSubject: Re: New to DE (and brand new to WH40k), wanted to start an 1850 pt army   New to DE (and brand new to WH40k), wanted to start an 1850 pt army I_icon_minitimeMon Oct 13 2014, 02:57

Not 100% but if the unit doesn't have cover from the perspective of the charging unit, then no cover.

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