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PostSubject: 1850 - First gane with new dex   1850 - First gane with new dex I_icon_minitimeSat Oct 11 2014, 00:48

Playing Grey Knights today and looking forward to the first game with the new dex. Here's what I'm packing:


Archon, WWP, Blaster, Armour of Misery
4 Medusae, Raider
Haemie, WWP, Flesh Gauntlet, Animus Vitae (Warlord)

10 Grotesques, Abberation

5 Warriors in Raider, Aethers
5 Warriors in Raider, Aethers
5 Warriors in Raider, Aethers

5 Scourge, 4 Haywire Blasters
Razorwing Jetfighter, 2 DLs, 2 Shatterfield Missiles

3 Talos, Chain Flails
Chronos, Spirit Probe

Still a few pts left but will put them somewhere. Basic plan; roll on Command Trait for results 3-6. Haemie warlord starts with Grots and DS in. Archon starts with Medusae and DS in, but will look to disembark on his own to shoot a tank, and still be close for the armour be effective as i will try to force Ld checks during my shooting phase. Medusae should kill enough to also force a check...within armour range.

The Talos/Chronos stay close together, moving up the field in the early turns. The Warriors start in reserve and act as late game contestors (36"moves now, woo!). The Scourge deploy looking to snipe off tanks T1

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PostSubject: Re: 1850 - First gane with new dex   1850 - First gane with new dex I_icon_minitimeSat Oct 11 2014, 05:25

Mostly a pretty good list full of all the new tricks. aTSKNF....most of that won't work. You are way better off with the helm of spite. You will ruin GKs day. In my mind with 10 grots, dump the meds and archon, pick up 4 liquifiers on the grots. And another razorwing or scourge unit. I bet that those med bombs don't last past a turn, and that's a lot of points for a single trick. I would like to see those grots daisy chaining with the cronos (spirit siphon) for a 4+ FNP. Just my take.
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PostSubject: Re: 1850 - First gane with new dex   1850 - First gane with new dex I_icon_minitimeSun Oct 12 2014, 01:35

Thanks for the input. As part of our post game discussion, getting Liquifiers into the Grots was a good point so I've shifted a few things around to make that possible. The 3 Talos were very good all game, and being buffed by the Chronos made them a real tough unit to deal with.

Unfortunately did not get the "W" but definitely a good learning experience and will apply a few list and tactic changes for my next game vs Tau.

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PostSubject: Re: 1850 - First gane with new dex   1850 - First gane with new dex I_icon_minitimeSun Oct 12 2014, 04:28

Now Tau I can really help you with. They are a particularly tough army for us; they have Ignores Cover on everything almost. A good bomb with liquifiers and a next turn multi charge can be devistTing to tau.
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PostSubject: Re: 1850 - First gane with new dex   1850 - First gane with new dex I_icon_minitimeSun Oct 12 2014, 05:15

Cronos needs the spirit probe. Thats the only thing I'd add.
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PostSubject: Re: 1850 - First gane with new dex   1850 - First gane with new dex I_icon_minitimeSun Oct 12 2014, 05:52

@Bleaksoul Brethren wrote:
Cronos needs the spirit probe. Thats the only thing I'd add.

Yes, don't leave home with out. I just forgot to write it in this list. Fixed now

I am very very impressed with the Talos now. TL Spinter Cannon, wounding on better than the 4+due to his high strength due to Poison is huge! And in unit a of 3s they are a very strong offensive force now

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PostSubject: Re: 1850 - First gane with new dex   1850 - First gane with new dex I_icon_minitimeSun Oct 12 2014, 06:56

An Archon with armor of misery wwp and PGL in a raider with torment grenade launchers is hilarious! Add in another HQ with archangel of pain and a unit from the coven supplement and they are testing for the archangel at -5 leadership. Then your Archon shoots his PGL at one unit and the raider shoots his torment grenade launcher at another one, both of which test at -3 leadership! If you time it right you can make his entire gunline suffer critical existence failure!
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PostSubject: Re: 1850 - First gane with new dex   1850 - First gane with new dex I_icon_minitimeSun Oct 12 2014, 07:42

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@Bleaksoul Brethren wrote:
Cronos needs the spirit probe. Thats the only thing I'd add.

Yes, don't leave home with out. I just forgot to write it in this list. Fixed now

I am very very impressed with the Talos now. TL Spinter Cannon, wounding on better than the 4+due to his high strength due to Poison is huge! And in unit a of 3s they are a very strong offensive force now

unfortunately no. The Talos strength doesn't help the Splinter cannon.
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PostSubject: Re: 1850 - First gane with new dex   1850 - First gane with new dex I_icon_minitimeMon Oct 13 2014, 07:47

Last comment is the Talos I'd rather take ichor injectors. (instant death and fleshbane are amazing).
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PostSubject: Re: 1850 - First gane with new dex   1850 - First gane with new dex I_icon_minitimeMon Oct 13 2014, 08:52

@Bleaksoul Brethren wrote:
Last comment is the Talos I'd rather take ichor injectors. (instant death and fleshbane are amazing).

I thought that too but won't the Talos loose his AP2 as he using a melee weapon that is AP- ?

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PostSubject: Re: 1850 - First gane with new dex   1850 - First gane with new dex I_icon_minitimeWed Oct 15 2014, 05:15

All MCs have AP2 regardless of the weapon; they are just that strong.
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PostSubject: Re: 1850 - First gane with new dex   1850 - First gane with new dex I_icon_minitimeWed Oct 15 2014, 06:46

Use terrorfex vs tau they will love it :3 i mean soulfright
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PostSubject: Re: 1850 - First gane with new dex   1850 - First gane with new dex I_icon_minitimeThu Oct 23 2014, 11:48

Game 2 vs Tau went very well in my favour to the tune of a 20-7 win. We called it top of 6 as all he had left was 12 Fire Warriors and 3 tanks that where about to be shot with Haywire and charged by Talos. I will admit tho that I was rolling hot and was drawing a hot deck. We played Maelstrom mission 2 and I was able to hold anywhere from 2-4 obj per turn and reveal quite a few cards.

The list, after the changes I had applied from above;

Archon, WWP
4 Medusae
Haemie, FG, Archangel of Pain

8 Grotesques, 3 Liquifiers, Abberation

5 Warriors in Raider, Aethers
5 Warriors in Raider, Aethers
5 Warriors in Raider, Aethers
5 Warriors in Raider, Aethers

5 Scourge, 4 DLs
5 Scourge, 4 HBs

3 Talos, CF
Cronos, Spirit Probe

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Once again the Talos unit attracted alot of fire. I rolled up Stealth(Ruins) which helped a lot. The Grots did very well, arriving T2 and flaming several Kroot aswell as killing a few more via the Archangel of Pain and a pathfinder. 4 Raider Dissies were aimed and ready at the remaining Pathfinders but they didn't break. The Grots went on to kill the rest of the rest of the unit, and the remaining pathfinders but their big trophy of the day was that of the Riptide, when he failed 1 of his 4 ID saves! Wahoo. Went in to smash up the Skyray and consolidate onto an obj to pick up another VP. Having them come down early and mow through his back line was excellent! Scourge with DLs didn't function well, poor positioning on my part though. I do think however that Haywire Blasters are the way to go so I don't see a problem in running 2 units of them

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PostSubject: Re: 1850 - First gane with new dex   1850 - First gane with new dex I_icon_minitimeThu Oct 23 2014, 12:34

Nice to see you win huge against Tau... question though: why raider instead of venoms? Especially with 5 man squads? Are you rocking them for lances or just like aethersails?

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Thanks Cavalier. I guess I choose Raiders over Venoms for a couple or reasons; extra hull point, aethersails and I don't mind Jinking a Raider but Jinking a Venom does lower it's output dramatically. I have been running Dissies tho...

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