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Evil Space Elves
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PostSubject: CONFIRMED: Covens Supplement Details!   CONFIRMED: Covens Supplement Details! I_icon_minitimeThu 02 Oct 2014, 15:37

From a 100% reliable source wishing to remain anonymous (confirmed by pics):
COVEN Supplement

Power from pain - by turn number.
1 – nothing
2 – Fearless
3 – Fear, Fearless
4 – Fear, Fearless, it will not die
5 – Fear, It will not die, zealot
6+ - Eternal Warrior, fear, it will not die, zealot

This is a straight copy from the book - yes some of the powers are omitted on purpose as they are not listed in the chart every turn

Warlord chart
1 – talos & chronos reroll FNP rolls of 1 within 12”of warlord
2 – warlord plus any grotesques he joins gain it will not die
3 – add or subtract 1 from reserve rolls
4 – If your warlord is slain by an attack/weapon with AP 1 or 2 or with the ID rule, gain D3 VP
5 – Warlord plus wracks he joins gain FNP4+
6 – Warlord gains preferred enemy

Artifacts
10pts – pick one of the following at the start of your turn which lasts until your next turn – IWND, fleet, poisoned 4+, rampage (used each turn)
10pts – fighting in a challenge – opponent suffers -5 to initiative
25pts – 8”range, S1, AP2, assault 1, blast, instant death, no effect on vehicles (used as a grenade in shooting phase)
10pts – Additional D6 attacks at S3, AP- at initiative 10, grant an additional pile in move at this step, no bonus applicable for furious charge, rending etc
20pts – IWND 4+, only wounded by poisons special rule on 6
35pts - +1 to FNP rolls, negate first wound suffered if it has the ID rule but when this happens, the item is lost

Coven Detachment
Required – 2HQ, 2 Elite
Optional – 4HQ, 6 Elite, 4 Heavy Support
Units that are available in the detachment – Urien, Haemonculus, Raider (DT only), Venom (DT only), Wracks, grotesques, talos, chronos
Benefits – if this is the primary detachment you can reroll warlord chart from this book. All enemy units within 12”of 1 or more models from this detachment suffer -1LD

7(!!!) formations as well!


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PostSubject: Re: CONFIRMED: Covens Supplement Details!   CONFIRMED: Covens Supplement Details! I_icon_minitimeThu 02 Oct 2014, 16:11

OK GW, shut up and just take my money bounce

IMHO it feels like, from both codex and supplement, GW wanna support Coven while persecuting Kabal and Cult in this edition.

P.S> Many thanks for the information!

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PostSubject: Re: CONFIRMED: Covens Supplement Details!   CONFIRMED: Covens Supplement Details! I_icon_minitimeThu 02 Oct 2014, 16:16

So this detachment has a surplus of hqs and the other has the standard two I was kinda hoping for somewhere in the middle
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PostSubject: Re: CONFIRMED: Covens Supplement Details!   CONFIRMED: Covens Supplement Details! I_icon_minitimeThu 02 Oct 2014, 16:24

My goodness...

Now if we could just get a Wych Cult supplement that looks like that, everything would be fine with the universe!

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PostSubject: Re: CONFIRMED: Covens Supplement Details!   CONFIRMED: Covens Supplement Details! I_icon_minitimeThu 02 Oct 2014, 16:25

That's amazing! God i need another job to pay for this!

lets hope they give vect and his kabal the same treatment!
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PostSubject: Re: CONFIRMED: Covens Supplement Details!   CONFIRMED: Covens Supplement Details! I_icon_minitimeThu 02 Oct 2014, 16:27

That looks really interesting. And I expect it will get more interesting once I've gotten to start digesting the core codex.

Man, I am gonna end up spending so much money that I can't really afford to spend.

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PostSubject: Re: CONFIRMED: Covens Supplement Details!   CONFIRMED: Covens Supplement Details! I_icon_minitimeThu 02 Oct 2014, 16:36

@Evil Space Elves wrote:
From a 100% reliable source wishing to remain anonymous (confirmed by pics):
Power from pain - by turn number.
1 – nothing
2 – Fearless
3 – Fear, Fearless
4 – Fear, Fearless, it will not die
5 – Fear, It will not die, zealot
6+ - Eternal Warrior, fear, it will not die, zealot

Does it mean they have no Fearless from Turn 5?

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PostSubject: Re: CONFIRMED: Covens Supplement Details!   CONFIRMED: Covens Supplement Details! I_icon_minitimeThu 02 Oct 2014, 16:38

Zealot has a built in fearless

If this detachment is yoUr primary and you have a regular dark eldar detachment allIed then does the regular one use their pfp and this one use theirs?
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PostSubject: Re: CONFIRMED: Covens Supplement Details!   CONFIRMED: Covens Supplement Details! I_icon_minitimeThu 02 Oct 2014, 16:57

@Izaeus wrote:
Zealot has a built in fearless

Now I found Zealot in the rulebook. Thanks for your advice!

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PostSubject: Re: CONFIRMED: Covens Supplement Details!   CONFIRMED: Covens Supplement Details! I_icon_minitimeThu 02 Oct 2014, 17:18

Ha! I'm curious what that 4th warlord trait is called.

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PostSubject: Re: CONFIRMED: Covens Supplement Details!   CONFIRMED: Covens Supplement Details! I_icon_minitimeThu 02 Oct 2014, 17:25

Like, I have 8 GW grotesques, 2 heamis, 10 wracks (all finecast), 1 chronos and enough raiders/Venoms . This be great for me.

Just shame I can't take Scourges/Razorwings.
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PostSubject: Re: CONFIRMED: Covens Supplement Details!   CONFIRMED: Covens Supplement Details! I_icon_minitimeThu 02 Oct 2014, 17:28

@Expletive Deleted wrote:
Ha! I'm curious what that 4th warlord trait is called.

'Venus In Furs'? Very Happy

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PostSubject: Re: CONFIRMED: Covens Supplement Details!   CONFIRMED: Covens Supplement Details! I_icon_minitimeThu 02 Oct 2014, 17:35

More Goodies:

Formations

1 - urien or haemy plus 2 units of grots - d6 roll at start of game for grots - +1S, +1T, fleet, shred, rage, 4+ FNP

2 - 1 haemy, 1 chronos, 2 units of wracks - all wracks gain precision strike, wracks treat turn 1 higher for pfp. if haemy is the warlord he gets trait 4 automatically

3 - 2 units of wracks in 2 venoms - if a unit in this formation scores first blood, gain D3 vp rather than 1. Wracks must start embarked an in reserve. Deployed turn 1 via deep strike

4 - unit of 5 Talos - gain scout. Score an extra vp for any non vehicle unit killed in combat

5 - 1 haemy, 1 Chronos, 1 Talos - form a single unit. Characters may not join it outside of this formation. Talos and chronos gain +1ws and init. If haemy is warlord, gain trait 1 automatically

6 - 1 haemy, 3 units of wracks with raiders. Master of pain from haemy confers to all units in this formation within 12". Warlord trait 5 if haemy is warlord

7 - all 6 formations as above in 1 formation - called the carnival of pain. Urien form formation 1 has his master of pain rule confer to whole formation. All non vehicles reroll 1's to wound in combat

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PostSubject: Re: CONFIRMED: Covens Supplement Details!   CONFIRMED: Covens Supplement Details! I_icon_minitimeThu 02 Oct 2014, 17:38

5 talos with scout!!!! haha

Outflanking with that would be hilarious!
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PostSubject: Re: CONFIRMED: Covens Supplement Details!   CONFIRMED: Covens Supplement Details! I_icon_minitimeThu 02 Oct 2014, 17:47

So formation 7 gains all the special rules of the other ones?
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PostSubject: Re: CONFIRMED: Covens Supplement Details!   CONFIRMED: Covens Supplement Details! I_icon_minitimeThu 02 Oct 2014, 17:52

Wow! Seems like some pretty thematic and hard hitting stuff. I may very well end up begging the wife for some extra hobby money this month. I'll just have to call it my very early Christmas gifts.

@Barking Agatha
I'm sure GW will produce something decent for the wych cults. Plenty of money to be made.
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PostSubject: Re: CONFIRMED: Covens Supplement Details!   CONFIRMED: Covens Supplement Details! I_icon_minitimeThu 02 Oct 2014, 18:08

@Evil Space Elves wrote:
More Goodies:

Formations

1 - urien or haemy plus 2 units of grots - d6 roll at start of game for grots - +1S, +1T, fleet, shred, rage, 4+ FNP

2 - 1 haemy, 1 chronos, 2 units of wracks - all wracks gain precision strike, wracks treat turn 1 higher for pfp. if haemy is the warlord he gets trait 4 automatically

3 - 2 units of wracks in 2 venoms - if a unit in this formation scores first blood, gain D3 vp rather than 1. Wracks must start embarked an in reserve. Deployed turn 1 via deep strike

4 - unit of 5 Talos - gain scout. Score an extra vp for any non vehicle unit killed in combat

5 - 1 haemy, 1 Chronos, 1 Talos - form a single unit. Characters may not join it outside of this formation. Talos and chronos gain +1ws and init. If haemy is warlord, gain trait 1 automatically

6 - 1 haemy, 3 units of wracks with raiders. Master of pain from haemy confers to all units in this formation within 12". Warlord trait 5 if haemy is warlord

7 - all 6 formations as above in 1 formation - called the carnival of pain. Urien form formation 1 has his master of pain rule confer to whole formation. All non vehicles reroll 1's to wound in combat

THIS IS AWESOME! Goodbye Kabal & Cult and welcome Coven...

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PostSubject: Re: CONFIRMED: Covens Supplement Details!   CONFIRMED: Covens Supplement Details! I_icon_minitimeThu 02 Oct 2014, 18:08

Formation #5, there, with the haemy/cronos/talos. Looks awesome until I realized that PfP doesn't give FNP in this setup... So no benefit?

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PostSubject: Re: CONFIRMED: Covens Supplement Details!   CONFIRMED: Covens Supplement Details! I_icon_minitimeThu 02 Oct 2014, 18:10

Coven units start with feel no pain.
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PostSubject: Re: CONFIRMED: Covens Supplement Details!   CONFIRMED: Covens Supplement Details! I_icon_minitimeThu 02 Oct 2014, 18:14

@average joe wrote:

@Barking Agatha
I'm sure GW will produce something decent for the wych cults.  Plenty of money to be made.

But I want it naooow! Wink

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PostSubject: Re: CONFIRMED: Covens Supplement Details!   CONFIRMED: Covens Supplement Details! I_icon_minitimeThu 02 Oct 2014, 18:26

I am still....a bit confused. Those formations said nothing about troops -- how would that work out when forming an army - Wracks are still elites?
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PostSubject: Re: CONFIRMED: Covens Supplement Details!   CONFIRMED: Covens Supplement Details! I_icon_minitimeThu 02 Oct 2014, 18:28

Troops are not required Smile

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PostSubject: Re: CONFIRMED: Covens Supplement Details!   CONFIRMED: Covens Supplement Details! I_icon_minitimeThu 02 Oct 2014, 18:28

@Ciirian wrote:
I am still....a bit confused.  Those formations said nothing about troops -- how would that work out when forming an army - Wracks are still elites?

IMO you don't need troop as the detachment consists of only HQ and Elite (and HS for your choice).

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PostSubject: Re: CONFIRMED: Covens Supplement Details!   CONFIRMED: Covens Supplement Details! I_icon_minitimeThu 02 Oct 2014, 19:48

I don't have 7th ed so how would a force drawn from the coven supplement ally with units from the new parent Dark Eldar codex?

And if I decide to get back into the game what will I need to buy to get current with the basic rules for 7th ed?
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PostSubject: Re: CONFIRMED: Covens Supplement Details!   CONFIRMED: Covens Supplement Details! I_icon_minitimeThu 02 Oct 2014, 20:00

Coven troops would be considered battle brothers for everything. Only thing that wouldn't work is the detachment rules wouldn't transfer between detachments.
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