I have the book, ask me a question - summary as of Oct. 3rd in OP

Thanks Foo, I didn't read every page.

Scorpion wrote:

min size for mandrakes is 3 for 36p.

Awesome! So archon in his venom with 4 mandrakes! Sounds fun! With the -2ld bubble and fear an mandrakes is a nice combination. Thanks for the info ;-)

PainReaver wrote:

Count Adhemar wrote:

Khalyxidae hybristoma wrote:

So, just to clarify and confirm the death of my whole army concept - the only units that we can possibly take as troops across the whole of our business are kabalites and wyches?

I gotta say that rather ruffles my tufts.

Yep, we've gone from four Troop choices to (effectively) one. Yay!!!

I wouldn't be so quick to discount wyches as they are the only unit to have assault grenades, and be able to contest and possibly seize held objectives. They can also lock down key units.

I can understand why GW removed Haywire from Wyches but they needed buffs to compensate for that loss and give them a battlefield role that they could actually do well. They didn't get that buff and we're left with a so-called assault unit with T3, no real save and that hits like a wet noodle.

Count Adhemar wrote:

PainReaver wrote:

Count Adhemar wrote:

Khalyxidae hybristoma wrote:

So, just to clarify and confirm the death of my whole army concept - the only units that we can possibly take as troops across the whole of our business are kabalites and wyches?

I gotta say that rather ruffles my tufts.

Yep, we've gone from four Troop choices to (effectively) one. Yay!!!

I wouldn't be so quick to discount wyches as they are the only unit to have assault grenades, and be able to contest and possibly seize held objectives. They can also lock down key units.

I can understand why GW removed Haywire from Wyches but they needed buffs to compensate for that loss and give them a battlefield role that they could actually do well. They didn't get that buff and we're left with a so-called assault unit with T3, no real save and that hits like a wet noodle.

Why do you feel that Haywire was removed from Wyches? My guess is that it was too easy for a group of 10 to wreck those miserable heavy walkers the imperial knights.

Can trueborn still take them?

I believe that was already answered as a No.

The new codex is a fun to play with.

did the haemonculus get fleet? sorry if it was already answered, but it was not in the summary

EDIT: also could not find this in the summary, so again sorry if it was already answered, how many melta guns does it cost to take a agoniser on the succubus?

Thanks alot Scorpion! you gave me an idea on how to run my army before the codex comes out!

instead of using my wyches with the wych stats, i will run an 'unbound' army using courts, with 9 lhamaean and a succubus in a raider. doing that yields a much better unit and cost 10 pts per unit when compared to the units i used to run

No, haemis have feel no pain instead

Did I metioned that we got new objectives??

What are the new objectives?

Are you still doing this?
Or can anyone else who has the codex by now answer my questions?

Marrath Schlagschatten wrote:

Hi! I have a few questions:

1.Did Toxin Blades for vehicles change?
2.Did Grisly Trophies for vehicles change?
3.Can i put Chain Snares on a Venom?
4.If i can put Chain Snares on a Venom does that allow me to Tank Shock (like rumored) with a Venom?

Thanks for your toil Scorpion!

1) they are not in the book
2) they do the same thing but only for Dark Eldar
3) Yes
4) Yes they allow you to tank shock (no ramming)

Cool so now we can tank shock with Venoms.
Thank you very much!

The PayneTrayn wrote:

What are the new objectives?

11: Take them Alive 1 VP for 1 destroyed non vehicle unit in assault phase D3 if an IC died
12: Fear&Terror 1 VP for enemy failed morale/Pinning/fear
13: Death by a Thousand Cuts: 1 VP for at least 1 modell dead from 3 different enemy unit D3 if from 6+ units (all at least 1 modell)
14: No Escape 1 VP if you wiped a fleeing(Falling Back) unit or some1 with Stealth or Shrouded
15: Pain in all its Forms 1VP if you wiped a unit in shooting OR assault phase, D3 for wiping one in both phases and D3+3 if 3+ units were destroyed in both shooting and assault
16: Trophy Hunter opponent chooses one objective marker and one of his characters, 1 VP for taking the objective or slaying the char(any way slain) or 2 VP for both in the same turn

urden93 wrote:

16: Trophy Hunter opponent chooses one objective marker and one of his characters, 1 VP for taking the objective or slaying the char(any way slain) or 2 VP for both in the same turn

Got to love this one