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PostSubject: The New Archon   Mon Sep 29 2014, 10:48

I'm sure by now most of us have seen the new incoming Archon model.

If not:
http://postimg.org/image/kkqtznmqz/full/

Now, I really wanted to check if I was the only one here, but I really hate this model.
For an Archon, the head of our army, he is incredibly boring.
Even just starting on his armour, its bland and identical to every other Warrior around. Nothing special.
Worse though, is that ridiculous pose. Its flat and boring, and not at all dynamic and interesting. Worse still, is the way it seems to imply that this Archon has just found a rock to stand on and literally pose.
I just find it dull. Really, really dull.

Am I the only one?
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PostSubject: Re: The New Archon   Mon Sep 29 2014, 12:11

I'm certainly not a fan of it in that pose. If it's possible to extend the splinter pistol arm outwards at all I'll probably do that if I get one. He looks like a little kid, stood at the back of a crowd of adults and straining to see. Or like some kind of board-game piece. The new Succubus, on the other hand, looks great. Certainly better than the old one (particularly my old one, which the superglue split over - I can no longer tell if I'm carving away at dried glue or if she's losing layers of skin).

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PostSubject: Re: The New Archon   Mon Sep 29 2014, 13:29

I like the cloak...
Thats about all. the pose is static and boring and somehow awkward.
I like that kitbash is easy (also was not hard on the former archon).. but I have to get rid of them damn legs...
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PostSubject: Re: The New Archon   Mon Sep 29 2014, 14:02

Depending on how the kit goes together, whacking the upper half on scourge legs would do wonders for it I think

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PostSubject: Re: The New Archon   Mon Sep 29 2014, 14:04

My thought exactly
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PostSubject: Re: The New Archon   Mon Sep 29 2014, 14:17

Wow that's bad. Looks like he should be in a boyband.

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PostSubject: Re: The New Archon   Mon Sep 29 2014, 14:35

You know what I've just realized?
His arms wrapped around himself and that big cloak?
He's cold.
The poor guy is just really cold and he's hugging himself to stay warm.

And now that image will be in your head every time you look at the model.
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PostSubject: Re: The New Archon   Mon Sep 29 2014, 15:03

@Squidmaster wrote:
You know what I've just realized?
His arms wrapped around himself and that big cloak?
He's cold.
The poor guy is just really cold and he's hugging himself to stay warm.

And now that image will be in your head every time you look at the model.

You are a monster.
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PostSubject: Re: The New Archon   Mon Sep 29 2014, 15:45

Strong agreement to Squidmaster. The new archon, and the new haemy too, are not attractive for me at all. I'm gonna open my wallet for other models and keep using my lovely old models for them. Seriously, I feel so lucky that I bought three old haemys this year.

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PostSubject: Re: The New Archon   Mon Sep 29 2014, 15:58

I like the fact it's more easily kitbashed, but the legs kill it for me, as mentioned Scourge legs could work out. My question is is it going to be plastic like the haeme, or finecast.

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PostSubject: Re: The New Archon   Mon Sep 29 2014, 16:57

I have seen this model in 2 defferent sculps but not clear enough to get a good look at them & I cant seem to find it for sale.. Anyone get any better pics of it?

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PostSubject: Re: The New Archon   Mon Sep 29 2014, 17:03

crappy model, but aside from the voidraven which just looks like a razorwing, and the wracks which are the same, I dont like any of the releases.
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PostSubject: Re: The New Archon   Mon Sep 29 2014, 17:15

I like the new Archon. There are a few conversions I've seen of him where he looks better then the pose he comes with. I am certain people here will find ways to make him look better with bits swapping.


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PostSubject: Re: The New Archon   Mon Sep 29 2014, 18:25

I quite like this one. People complain about him looking too static but I've always thought that the current Archon looks pretty static anyway. I might make an old style Agoniser with the knife-fingers for him and possibly a Hell Mask. I think there's potential to hark back to the first codex.

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PostSubject: Re: The New Archon   Mon Sep 29 2014, 18:29

The old one was static but stood their in a maleficent and proud way. This one looks like he's just been kicked out of NSync or about to tell off a child. He has that crossed arms I'm not angry, just disappointed look about him

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PostSubject: Re: The New Archon   Mon Sep 29 2014, 19:23

@Grub wrote:
The old one was static but stood their in a maleficent and proud way. This one looks like he's just been kicked out of NSync  or about to tell off a child. He has that crossed arms I'm not angry, just disappointed look about him

Haha, I can see that. I prefer to think of it as a self-assured arrogance amidst the turmoil of the war raging around him stance.

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PostSubject: Re: The New Archon   Mon Sep 29 2014, 21:15

Not really my kind of a character. I think, you might convert him to a fine Haemi.

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PostSubject: Re: The New Archon   Mon Sep 29 2014, 21:25

@FenWulf wrote:
I have seen this model in 2 defferent sculps but not clear enough to get a good look at them &  I cant seem to find it for sale.. Anyone get any better pics of it?

Si, these are from the iBooks preview of the codex:

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PostSubject: Re: The New Archon   Mon Sep 29 2014, 22:13

That new archon you posted is beautiful. I will name him Sauron and hold him and love him.
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PostSubject: Re: The New Archon   Mon Sep 29 2014, 22:28

Hope that archon model let me change his sex into a female and make a new version of my archontress (just need an exchangeable torso in that model)
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PostSubject: Re: The New Archon   Mon Sep 29 2014, 22:36

That is better, but the legs. Looks silly, no motion at all, doesn't stand out that its a HQ, looks more like librarian and I don't mean the 40K one!

Perhaps if its plastic and comes with all the weapon options or at least some then there is some conversion opportunities. I.e. saw off the legs and replace with anything.

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PostSubject: Re: The New Archon   Mon Sep 29 2014, 23:06

I think the model is interesting because it is static. In an army full of dynamik poses, there is the one that stands out. The only thing i dislike is that his armour is so regular. that is the reason why i will build him into a dracon as i allready have a fitting base model for my archon.

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PostSubject: Re: The New Archon   Mon Sep 29 2014, 23:26

Fair enough. Opinions are opinions. I personally don't think the quality of the new Hamocules or Archon are any good. Think the older ones are far better. Look more chilling rather then chilled out.

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PostSubject: Re: The New Archon   Tue Sep 30 2014, 00:18

@Grub wrote:
Fair enough. Opinions are opinions. I personally don't think the quality of the new Hamocules or Archon are any good. Think the older ones are far better. Look more chilling rather then chilled out.

Yup. The new models looks like champion at most, not HQ. Also the Bomber looks great but the price... I guess I'll use my old models.
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PostSubject: Re: The New Archon   Tue Sep 30 2014, 09:47

One inconsistency, the Archon on the codex is based on the older model, so having a drastically different model to what it looks like is unusual. Perhaps there will be multiple to choose from or multiple options from kitbashing?

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