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whiskeytango
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PostSubject: Haemis with a scissorhand   Tue Feb 18 2014, 09:20

Now, I'm fairly certain I already know the answer to this, but I'll ask anyways. In the rules for the scissorhand, it says that its attacks can be combined with an additional close combat weapon for +2 attacks, but shouldn't that actually be +3? A Haemi is already armed with a pistol and a CCW, granting him +1, so it would make sense to me that adding the scissorhand would be like adding a third.

I suppose the best counter to this would be that it doesn't actually say anywhere that the scissorhand is a CCW (thus being something that would give you +1 attack when equipped with another CCW in combat) at all, its just a piece of wargear, nor do i think theres precedent in the main rule book for being armed with more than two weapons in close combat.

I would never try to play that it would give +3, I guess it just struck me that it seems like it should.
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PostSubject: Re: Haemis with a scissorhand   Tue Feb 18 2014, 09:30

The Scissorhand is used instead of either the pistol or ccw, not in addition to. So your model would be attacking with the Scissorhand + either the pistol or ccw (doesn't matter which as they both count as a ccw) for the usual +1 attack for 2 weapons and an additional +1 attack for the Scissorhands special rule.

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PostSubject: Re: Haemis with a scissorhand   Tue Feb 18 2014, 10:22

@Count Adhemar wrote:
The Scissorhand is used instead of either the pistol or ccw, not in addition to. So your model would be attacking with the Scissorhand + either the pistol or ccw (doesn't matter which as they both count as a ccw) for the usual +1 attack for 2 weapons and an additional +1 attack for the Scissorhands special rule.


THis indeed. Never forget that despite being alien to us, the Eldar can still only use two hands at a time.
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PostSubject: Re: Haemis with a scissorhand   Tue Feb 18 2014, 18:31

@Squidmaster wrote:
@Count Adhemar wrote:
The Scissorhand is used instead of either the pistol or ccw, not in addition to. So your model would be attacking with the Scissorhand + either the pistol or ccw (doesn't matter which as they both count as a ccw) for the usual +1 attack for 2 weapons and an additional +1 attack for the Scissorhands special rule.


THis indeed. Never forget that despite being alien to us, the Eldar can still only use two hands at a time.

...but in the case of most haemonculi, more than two Wink

Eh, now I have to demand GW give haemmies a special rule to do that!
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PostSubject: Re: Haemis with a scissorhand   Tue Feb 18 2014, 18:46

@Mngwa wrote:
@Squidmaster wrote:
@Count Adhemar wrote:
The Scissorhand is used instead of either the pistol or ccw, not in addition to. So your model would be attacking with the Scissorhand + either the pistol or ccw (doesn't matter which as they both count as a ccw) for the usual +1 attack for 2 weapons and an additional +1 attack for the Scissorhands special rule.


THis indeed. Never forget that despite being alien to us, the Eldar can still only use two hands at a time.

...but in the case of most haemonculi, more than two Wink

Eh, now I have to demand GW give haemmies a special rule to do that!

Don't tell the 'Nid players then. They'll have more attacks then they've had hot dinners.

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