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Lord Puberis
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PostSubject: Really quick question   Sat Sep 14 2013, 16:33

When kitting out a trueborn dracon, there is an option to give him a venom blade or an agoniser in place of his ccw.
Is it just me or is the agoniser actually worse than the venom blade and costs 15 points more.

Am I missing something?

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PostSubject: Re: Really quick question   Sat Sep 14 2013, 16:41

Agoniser is a Power Weapon, AP4, so ignores 4+ armour or worse; against Marines, Venom Blade is better.
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PostSubject: Re: Really quick question   Sat Sep 14 2013, 17:37

Agoniser isn't AP4 it's AP3 so ignores 3+ saves or worse. So it's better than the venom blade against marines and MCs with 3+ or worse armour.

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PostSubject: Re: Really quick question   Sat Sep 14 2013, 17:41

Ah, thanks,

Brand new to the game and so still finding my way round the ad our rules etc!!

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PostSubject: Re: Really quick question   Sat Sep 14 2013, 21:29

As a random addendum - the V.Blade is better versus armor saves of 2+ just because it will wound more.

It's a very iffy line between which of the weapons is better, and it keeps shifting with the meta (which has been jumping around like crazy of late).

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PostSubject: Re: Really quick question   Sat Sep 14 2013, 21:37

Thanks Mush, I'd lumped Power swords and Agonisers as AP4, no idea why!
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PostSubject: Re: Really quick question   Mon Sep 16 2013, 17:24

the different power weapons are as follows:

Power Sword: Strength: User, AP:3
Power Maul: Strength: User +2, AP:4
Power Axe: Strength: User +1, AP:2, Unwieldy
Power Lance: On the charge: Strength: User +1, AP:3; Rest of the time, Strength: User, AP4

Agonisers are considered Unusual Power Weapons as per the BYB, so its AP:3

Huskblades were FAQed to AP:2 as per the DE FAQ

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