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PostSubject: Re: Eldar Rumours   Mon May 20 2013, 12:38

This is (allegedly) the full release list:

Warhammer 40000: Codex Eldar
104 page full colour, hardback Warhammer 40,000 Codex
Contains New Artwork, Background and rules whilst showcasing the fantastic miniature range

Eldar Wraithknight
This box contains a multipart plastic kit that makes one Eldar Wraithknight, this completely new Walker stands a massive 9 inches tall and can be constructed with a variety of armaments to fulfill a range of battlefield roles.

Eldar Hemlock Wraithfighter/ Crimson Hunter
This box contains a multipart plastic kit that makes either a Hemlock Wraithfighter or a Crimson Hunter, both new Eldar Flyers. The Hemlock Wraithfighter is a Psychicly armed bomber designer to cause havoc among enemy troops while the Crimson Hunter is an all new aspect warrior class whom excel at aerial combat.

Eldar Wraithguard/Wraithblades
This box contains a multipart plastic kit that makes either 5 Wraithguards previously only available in metal or 5 Wraithblades, a new type of deadly close combat warrior.

Eldar Farseer
A plastic Clamp pack containing 1 Eldar Hero in a dynamic mid-casting posse.

Reformatted Eldar Battle Force
Contains 10 Eldar Guardians and a Heavy Weapon Platform, 5 Dire Avengers (including the option of making an Exarch), a Wave Serpent and a Vyper Jetbike

Warhammer 40000: Eldar Dire Avengers
The Dire Avengers squad has been repackaged as a five miniature boxed set (including the option of making an Exarch)


New Finecast Releases

Illic Nightspear·
A clampack that contains one highly detailed Citadel Finecast resin miniature sculpted by Edgar Ramos. Illic Nightspear is an outcast who has become an deadly assassin armed with the sniper rifle Voidbringer.

Eldar Spiritseer
A clampack that contains one highly detailed Citadel Finecast resin miniature sculpted by Mike Fores. Armed with a Witch Staff and spirit stone wearing a distinctive eyeless helm.
Available While Stocks Last. These Items are highly limited, please request the quantity you require and we will supply you as close to this number as we can.


Psychic Cards: Eldar·
This pack contains 14 reference cards that describe the effects of each of the Primaris Powers and the the six psychic powers available to each area of mastery

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PostSubject: Re: Eldar Rumours   Mon May 20 2013, 12:44

I am thrilled with whats been leaked so far. It seems Eldar may be getting that big update that Craftworlders have been begging for for years. I just hope they get new jetbike models, and plastic storm guardian bits. If not... oh well I can still convert up JB's. But more than new models I am excited for the Codex. So pumped!

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PostSubject: Re: Eldar Rumours   Mon May 20 2013, 13:35

for the jetbike:

From some unnamed 4chan source, quoted on Warseer:



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Repacked:
WINDRIDER JETBIKE SQUAD - 3 OLD jetbikes.
<snip>

I hope its fake

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PostSubject: Re: Eldar Rumours   Mon May 20 2013, 14:40

So much text talk here, its like one of those kid's chat rooms. Mad Please sort it out Mods!

The only unknown left, modelwise, is whether the Jetbikes are new or just a repack. I fancy they're just a lazy repack myself tbh.
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PostSubject: Re: Eldar Rumours   Mon May 20 2013, 16:19

Teaser trailer up on GW website:

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PostSubject: Re: Eldar Rumours   Mon May 20 2013, 17:38

That seems like a poor release. Only codex seems valuable.

Repacked DA...well..what for? Oh whatever, i already have 30 of them.
Hopefully thats just first wave.

I will probably order new codex, psychic powers and a new Farseer for a collection.
If they repack jetbikes that would be a massive fail. Near Reavers they are....ancient.
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PostSubject: Re: Eldar Rumours   Mon May 20 2013, 18:41

Hmm... I was hoping for more plastic Aspect Warriors. Even if they were the same sprues but in plastic I would have been happier.

Oh well, as Adhemar said, it's allegedly the full release list.

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PostSubject: Re: Eldar Rumours   Mon May 20 2013, 18:42

Everyone will crap when they see the price of the big guy.
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PostSubject: Re: Eldar Rumours   Mon May 20 2013, 18:56

@MongooseDog wrote:
Everyone will crap when they see the price of the big guy.

Ya, one of the reasons I'm not going to be adding some Craftworld to my DE, the big stuff is way too expensive.

I vastly prefer cooler, more detailed and more dynamic infantry models. I'm just not a fan of the bigger and bigger 'Transformer' models every release is getting at the expense of upgrading the regular troopers/HQs. Sure, the big guys are well made and look decent, but thats not the direction I want my army to go. I don't like Apocalypse, its a pity the models and rules are shifting the game more and more in that direction (infantry existing solely as something for the big stuff to kill...).

I'm thinking I'll probably just expand my IG and DE instead

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PostSubject: Re: Eldar Rumours   Mon May 20 2013, 19:28

it's 99% chance the release list because its pics from the WD btw
as for the price of the big thingy 70£ 95€ most likely = apocalypse price ...
(strange that google tell me that 70£=83€ -_-)

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PostSubject: Re: Eldar Rumours   Mon May 20 2013, 19:29

I know the price and it is way to much. Lets just say, the battleforce is the same.
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PostSubject: Re: Eldar Rumours   Mon May 20 2013, 19:30

From what I've heard, and remembers, there should be new Warpspiders, new jetbikes (posse like ours), New aspects (Everguard), CC wraithguards, something called dragon riders and sky chariots and of course the big guy (tallest GW mini to date)

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PostSubject: Re: Eldar Rumours   Mon May 20 2013, 20:04

@Count Adhemar wrote:
Teaser trailer up on GW website:

Clicky

well that was nice of them, give us a teaser trailer that shows you ABSOLUTELY nothing.

@Jehoel - yeah we are supposed to get a lot of that stuff, but it's looking more and more that what GW is going to do is release the stuff in waves like they did for Necrons and Dark Eldar. so we'll get some things right away, of course that being the new shiny stuff, and the rest whenever they feel like giving it to us, if ever, considering that Tyranids are still waiting for models in their codex.
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PostSubject: Re: Eldar Rumours   Tue May 21 2013, 05:10

Okay... My local store let me place my pre-orders today.

I've seen the lists:

Wraithknight Retail is $115

There is a Limited Ed. Eldar Codex for for $100 and a Limited Edition Craftworld Iyanden Codex also for $100

The Flyer is $65

There is an Eldar Shrieker Jetbike Upgrade and a Windrider Jetbike Squadron

2 new HQs are Illic Night Spear and and a Spiritseer

There is a new Autarch on Jetbike

The new Wraithguard Box is $50.
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PostSubject: Re: Eldar Rumours   Tue May 21 2013, 06:21

so is that bike set 2 different kits?

this is going to be a very expensive release for me.

I am very excited for this

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PostSubject: Re: Eldar Rumours   Tue May 21 2013, 06:35

If the jetbike release is nothing but a re-packaging of the old sculpts, I'm going to be extremely disappointed. Few other kits are in such desperate need of an update.

Out of all the alleged release lists I've seen so far, it's still the fliers that have me the most interested. The rest...not what I was expecting. I was anticipating a lot more new sets released in what is obviously a big release of a core army.

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PostSubject: Re: Eldar Rumours   Tue May 21 2013, 06:48

Yes, though it looks like it may be a repackaging of this:

http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/catalog/productDetail.jsp?prodId=prod1710008a
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PostSubject: Re: Eldar Rumours   Tue May 21 2013, 10:28

@Balisong wrote:
Wraithknight Retail is $115, There is a Limited Ed. Eldar Codex for for $100 and a Limited Edition Craftworld Iyanden Codex also for $100

are you serious??!! $115 for the Wraithknight??!! for that price that thing better come with an ounce of gold somewhere in the box.

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The Flyer is $65, The new Wraithguard Box is $50.

these are a bit more reasonable, and somewhat expected.

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There is an Eldar Shrieker Jetbike Upgrade and a Windrider Jetbike Squadron
2 new HQs are Illic Night Spear and and a Spiritseer
There is a new Autarch on Jetbike

i have to agree with Rip on this one if it is a repackage of that old model, that's just a sad day for us. what was wrong with the old Autarch that they felt the need to make a new one, UNLESS, the new one is on an updated jetbike. Also, what were they asking price wise for the windrider squad, the seer, the ranger and the new autarch?
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PostSubject: Re: Eldar Rumours   Tue May 21 2013, 10:31

Agreed. I expected the rest of the prices (albeit all GW products are expensive but i'm an old whiner), but the Wraithknight is too expensive. They are really on the edge now...

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PostSubject: Re: Eldar Rumours   Tue May 21 2013, 10:32

I said earlier in the thread that I would definitely be getting a Wraithknight. At the price that is being suggested (probably GBP65) I am now changing my mind, at least until I've seen the rules for it!

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PostSubject: Re: Eldar Rumours   Tue May 21 2013, 11:02

From what I've seen around the nets the Wraithknight will be 250-350pts, 3++, twin linked if its scatter lasers hit and I think this is a typo but 10 S9 small blasts.

Oh and shurikens will be AP2 on a to wound roll of a 6 which is confirmed to me by a friend.

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PostSubject: Re: Eldar Rumours   Tue May 21 2013, 11:07

@Sky Serpent wrote:
Oh and shurikens will be AP2 on a to wound roll of a 6 which is confirmed to me by a friend.

Rending then? Not terribly imaginative on the part of GW but I suppose it will encourage people to buy lots of infantry with shuriken catapults. I just hope they've given the damn things a decent range! 12" range on a weapon carried by possibly the worst hand to hand fighters in the universe is stupid to the point of insanity. No wonder the Eldar are a dying race. By the time they can shoot anything they are in charge range!

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PostSubject: Re: Eldar Rumours   Tue May 21 2013, 12:11

Not rending per se, a watered down version of it.

Also if nobody has clocked onto it by now: if you want to get any Dire Avengers then buy them now as they're going down to 5 man but still relatively the same price.

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Got a sneak peek of the White Dwarf today, managed to dig out some actual rules from the battle report, preview teasers and a couple of tiny pages from the codex that were printed in the WD that I managed to read. Not many stats on offer but still a reasonable chunk of rules. I'm probably mis-remembering the names of some of these rules but here is what I picked up in no particular order:

- From what I saw all the non Wraith infantry have the run/shoot shoot/run ability (the rule was called Battle something). Avengers definitely do (from the report) and Rangers definitely do (from tiny printed profile in the WD) as well. Not sure if its just for Shuriken weapons (Rangers do have Pistols I guess).
- It looks likes all Eldar have the 'Ancient Foe' special rule, no idea what this does but I suspect its something like Hatred Daemons of Slaneesh (don't think it was Necron related as the report was against Crons) since all Eldar appear to have it (including the Wraith units).
- There are 14 Eldar specific psychic powers from 2 different charts, Runes of Battle and Runes of Fate. However it looks like several of the powers are 2 in 1, i.e they have a buff mode and a debuff mode, so there are actually HEAPS of powers. I.e the Primaris for Battle is Conceal/Reveal (as a single card/roll etc), Conceal gives you Shrouded and Reveal removes Shrouded from an enemy. The 1 on the Battle Chart was Destructor/Renew(?), Destructor being the same as before with Soul Blaze added and Renew allowing you to restore a wound to a friendy model within range (18" I think). Primaris for Runes of Fate was Guide, which is now 24" range but is otherwise the exact same as before. Very surprising to see this as aside from the range it is far worse than the Divination Primaris (although I guess you could take both and effectively Guide two units). The 1 on the Fate Chart was a terrible Focuses Witchfire power. Fortune and Doom are still options (the Farseer in the report had them) and appear to have the same effects.
- The Avatar has Fleet. Also one of the psychic powers increases your movement speed/charge range somehow
- The Wraithknight is insanely huge, it is literally twice the height of a Wraithlord, and the sword option it can take is basically the size of a Wraithlord as well. It can take up to 2 Suncannons, which are S6 AP2 Heavy 3 Small Blast or up to 2 Wraithlances(?) which are presumably the heavy anti tank option. Sword replaces one of the big guns I think (they are arm mounted like the Titans). This is in addition to the two shoulder mounted heavy weapons (I saw Scatters and Starcannons, so presumably the normal range of heavy weapons are available)
- Wraithguard and Wraithblades look good, think scaled down Wraithlords. They looked a bit bigger than the old ones, but I think it was partly just the added range of motion in the poses on 40mm bases (similar to the old 25mm base Terminators vs the newer 40mm base ones, they are bigger but the better poses help as well). Wraithguard can now get either Wraithcannons (which from the fluff descriptions seemed to still be single shot and very powerful) or D Scythes which were described as a multi shot weapon but it could still Pen vehicles on a 6. Wraithblades are only 1A base (sadly) but looked like they could go either 2 CCW (no idea on stats of their weapons, but they appeared to have sword/axe options) or 1 CCW + Shield gen arm.
- Wraithguard are definitely S5 T6, Lord is almost certainly not T6 (a full unit of Destroyers shot one in the report and did nothing, which suggests T8 or some other equivalent buff). No idea on the stats for the Knight.
- It looks like Aspect Warriors have the same base profile, include Exarches with Ld9
- Reapers have Slow and Purposeful
- Rangers have WS4. They also have a character (not sure if he is upgrade or HQ) who has a 120" range Sniper Rifle.
- One of the fliers has 2 Heavy D Scythes on the wings and a psychic based main gun. The other has 2 Bright Lances and a Pulse Laser.
- Saw stats for what looked like special weapons for characters, might have been for Special Characters as well since the 120" range sniper was in there. One weapon was +2S, AP- Melee, Rending, Fleshbane, Instant Death. Another was +1S AP3, Soul Blaze, and if you killed anything with Soul Blaze then every unit within 6" of that unit would become effected by Soul Blaze as well. There was also a one use only piece of wargear, which you could use when the character died. On a 2+ you place a S4 AP3 template over the character, hitting both friend and foe, but if you cause at least 1 wound then the character stands back up with 1 wound. Last one I saw was an item which gave the user Fearless, Shrouded, Stealth and re-roll cover saves but they lose the IC rule, which gives people a way to make a Solitare (the name was something to do with the Laughing God).

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PostSubject: Re: Eldar Rumours   Tue May 21 2013, 12:20

This sounds amazing. This is the huge update I've been waiting for in terms of rules. So glad the Craftworld part of my army is based around Dire Avengers and Rangers (with Reapers in my 1k army)!!! Incredible.

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PostSubject: Re: Eldar Rumours   Tue May 21 2013, 12:23

To be honest, I'm not feeling inspired by the details given. I read through them and nothing leaped out at me and yelled "I'm new and exciting!"

Will wait to see the book for myself.

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