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PostSubject: Reaver Randomisation Petition    Tue Feb 19 2013, 11:11

I have emailed Games Workshop several times about this, however they only seems to deal with things if they get 5+ emails from different people regarding the same problem!

So bellow I have added an email message that all those who have suffered at the hands of the random allocation system and think it's absurd should send to the games workshop FAQ team, to make them aware of this problem. Very Happy

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To: Gamefaqs@gwplc.com

Subject: Dark Eldar Query: Bladevanes

Dear GW,

Dark Eldar players who run large squads of reavers consistently encounter this problem.

In the latest Dark Eldar FAQ is says the following:

Q: When allocating Wounds caused by a unit of Reaver Jetbikes
making a bladevanes, cluster caltrops and / or grav-talon attack, from
which direction is the attack considered to have originated? (p29)
A: Allocate hits from these using Random Allocation


Random allocation isn't that bad when you are resolving 2-3 hits. However when you are resolving 20+ bladevane attacks (as is often the case with nine or more reavers), it becomes very impractical and you can spend a good five minutes every shooting phase resolving random attacks for your reavers (that's over 25 minutes a game wasted!).

To make matter worse Chaos daemon screamers have an attack that is identical to the reavers bladevanes (slashing attack), however they do not have to deal with this problem as their rules have a simple addition that says:

"Use the final position of the Screamers for wound allocation" - Chaos Daemon update, page 4, Screamers, Slashing Attack

This small addition makes it simple and quick to resolve the attacks. By changing the reaver bladevane FAQ to match the wound allocation rules for screamers the impractical randomisation problem would be removed and the rules would be more consistent.

Q: When allocating Wounds caused by a unit of Reaver Jetbikes
making a bladevanes, cluster caltrops and / or grav-talon attack,
from which direction is the attack considered to have originated?
(p29)
A: Use the final position of the Reavers for Wound allocation.


Thanks,

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PostSubject: Re: Reaver Randomisation Petition    Tue Feb 19 2013, 11:24

Sent an email, too. Great idea, Mush!

How about us gathering questions in this thread, along with possible answers to them, then formulating a nice email with all the questions in it? We could then make it a forum wide announcement and ask all the members to send the email to GW. Our number is legion! They will have to listen!

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PostSubject: Re: Reaver Randomisation Petition    Tue Feb 19 2013, 11:27

@Kinnay wrote:
Sent an email, too. Great idea, Mush!

How about us gathering questions in this thread, along with possible answers to them, then formulating a nice email with all the questions in it? We could then make it a forum wide announcement and ask all the members to send the email to GW. Our number is legion! They will have to listen!

Great idea! I was thinking the same thing. I will start a thread for collecting rule questions.

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PostSubject: Re: Reaver Randomisation Petition    Tue Feb 19 2013, 11:52

I've sent an e-mail too.

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PostSubject: Re: Reaver Randomisation Petition    Tue Feb 19 2013, 11:55

Thanks both of you. Very Happy

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PostSubject: Re: Reaver Randomisation Petition    Tue Feb 19 2013, 14:57

sent as well! it really is an inconsistency that needs to be addressed.

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PostSubject: Re: Reaver Randomisation Petition    Tue Feb 19 2013, 15:04

yeah, I run into this problem so often it jabs at the fun of playing them.

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PostSubject: Re: Reaver Randomisation Petition    Tue Feb 19 2013, 15:15

Send.

Rule = too complicated.

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PostSubject: Re: Reaver Randomisation Petition    Tue Feb 19 2013, 15:49

I would enjoy reavers so much more! I tend not to take them because of that

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PostSubject: Re: Reaver Randomisation Petition    Wed Feb 20 2013, 18:30

You owe me a beer, Mush. Very Happy

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PostSubject: Re: Reaver Randomisation Petition    Wed Feb 20 2013, 18:32

@Gobsmakked wrote:
You owe me a beer, Mush. Very Happy


More like I owe you 40+ terrain pieces! Embarassed

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PostSubject: Re: Reaver Randomisation Petition    Tue Apr 23 2013, 14:51

Ladies and gentlemen. It worked! Very Happy

GW even directly copy pasted our FAQ suggestion (notice the capital on Wound for no apparent reason).

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PostSubject: Re: Reaver Randomisation Petition    Tue Apr 23 2013, 15:02

Hurray!

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PostSubject: Re: Reaver Randomisation Petition    Tue Apr 23 2013, 15:03

It worked! Congrats Mush! Very Happy

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PostSubject: Re: Reaver Randomisation Petition    Tue Apr 23 2013, 16:40

Congrats Mush!

Considering how well this worked out perhaps we should do the same to change the rules for Mandrakes to make them a model people would actually want to field and not just paint and own. Wink
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PostSubject: Re: Reaver Randomisation Petition    Tue Apr 23 2013, 17:12

@tlronin wrote:
It worked! Congrats Mush! Very Happy

Hey it's not just me, it's everyone who sent the emails. Very Happy

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PostSubject: Re: Reaver Randomisation Petition    Wed Apr 24 2013, 03:26

@Mushkilla wrote:
@tlronin wrote:
It worked! Congrats Mush! Very Happy

Hey it's not just me, it's everyone who sent the emails. Very Happy

ah but you are the reaver master sir!

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PostSubject: Re: Reaver Randomisation Petition    Wed Apr 24 2013, 09:05

awsome now it my makes it quicker to run my 3 squads of bikes.

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PostSubject: Re: Reaver Randomisation Petition    Wed Apr 24 2013, 09:19

Can we please do something like this for Mandrakes?

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PostSubject: Re: Reaver Randomisation Petition    Wed Apr 24 2013, 11:15

@sgb69 wrote:
Can we please do something like this for Mandrakes?

Yeah, let's all send in a question to the FAQ team. The question should be "What the hell were you guys smoking when you came up with the rules for Mandrakes?"

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PostSubject: Re: Reaver Randomisation Petition    Wed Apr 24 2013, 11:52

@Darkgreen Pirate wrote:
@Mushkilla wrote:
@tlronin wrote:
It worked! Congrats Mush! Very Happy

Hey it's not just me, it's everyone who sent the emails. Very Happy

ah but you are the reaver master sir!

Exactly, plus you made the e-mail to send. Wink

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PostSubject: Re: Reaver Randomisation Petition    Wed Apr 24 2013, 20:02


Now then, about that beer ........
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