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PostSubject: look out sir?   Wed Sep 05 2012, 07:50

so im really confused on how this works. do you do the LoS roll first before you make an armour save? or after you roll for armour save?

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PostSubject: Re: look out sir?   Wed Sep 05 2012, 08:01

I roll LoS when it comes time to allocate wounds.

So I have my IC at the front, and when I have a bunch of wounds to distribute, I can roll LoS for each wound, then roll the relevant save (Cover, Invul, FnP etc). If my LoS attempt is failed, the IC then has to make the save.

My friend does it another way though. When he has his wound pool, the rolls the save against his character, and when one is failed, he rolls LoS and if successful, removes a model from somewhere else in the squad.

I don't know if this is correct, to me actually both ways are correct, as the wording says both "when a wound (or unsaved wound) is allocated to your characters.....)

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PostSubject: Re: look out sir?   Wed Sep 05 2012, 08:12

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I don't know if this is correct, to me actually both ways are correct, as the wording says both "when a wound (or unsaved wound) is allocated to your characters.....)
Indeed, that does make it quite vague. However, as I have understood it, If everyone - including the character - has the same save, then you do the LOS afterwards. If the character has a different save, then you do the LOS before (as per the Mixed Saves rule). Then again I am not completely sure, but I feel this is at least a relatively right interpretation of that text... scratch

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Dang! I was hoping Tyranids followed the Pokemon naming idea. A big Carnifex running around just yelling "Carnifex! Carni-Carnifex!" followed by a squad of termagants all saying "Termagant" to each other.
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PostSubject: Re: look out sir?   Wed Sep 05 2012, 10:34

Actually, the 2nd dot point on pg 16 under Look Out Sir instructs you on what to do

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PostSubject: Re: look out sir?   Wed Sep 05 2012, 12:32

Sure, but I feel it contradicts itself somewhat with that "Wound (or unsaved Wound)" in the beginning, and "resolve the Wound" at the 2nd point. In any case, what I feel is best to do is to take the save after the wound has been reallocated (it is after all another guy, perhaps with another save, who jumps in before the IC).

Besides, how could an unsaved wound be "allocated" at all, if it has already penetrated the armour?

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Dang! I was hoping Tyranids followed the Pokemon naming idea. A big Carnifex running around just yelling "Carnifex! Carni-Carnifex!" followed by a squad of termagants all saying "Termagant" to each other.
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PostSubject: Re: look out sir?   Wed Sep 05 2012, 12:48

Mixed saves, LOS before your roll any saves.

Same saves, LOS after you roll any saves.

Hope that helps. Smile

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PostSubject: Re: look out sir?   Wed Sep 05 2012, 12:54

@Mushkilla wrote:
Mixed saves, LOS before your roll any saves.

Same saves, LOS after you roll any saves.

Hope that helps. Smile
Pretty much what I said just a few posts ago, just simpler. But yeah, I think that sounds right.

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shamroll wrote:
Dang! I was hoping Tyranids followed the Pokemon naming idea. A big Carnifex running around just yelling "Carnifex! Carni-Carnifex!" followed by a squad of termagants all saying "Termagant" to each other.
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PostSubject: Re: look out sir?   Wed Sep 05 2012, 13:01

@Saintspirit wrote:

Pretty much what I said just a few posts ago, just simpler. But yeah, I think that sounds right.

I was just reiterating the point. Encase there was any confusion. Smile

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PostSubject: Re: look out sir?   Thu Sep 06 2012, 02:03

@Mushkilla wrote:
Mixed saves, LOS before your roll any saves.

Same saves, LOS after you roll any saves.

Hope that helps. Smile

Yeah thats a good way of putting it actually.

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PostSubject: Re: look out sir?   Thu Sep 06 2012, 13:03

AHHHH LIFE SAVERS!!! Smile thank you very much!

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