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How about using normal pointy prows and using the dragon head as a gun shield with the dark lance protruding from its mouth?
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@Jonnyroxtar wrote:
How about using normal pointy prows and using the dragon head as a gun shield with the dark lance protruding from its mouth?

Thanks for the suggestion. I saw that somewhere just the other day, but of course can’t find it again now. It looked awesome and I may well try it on a vehicle or two in the future, but for now my dragon boats already have a Viking-esque theme that I want to stick to.

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……. Again, these conversions are awesome. I look at mine now...and feel shame Sad

Dude, never, ever say that. I have been practicing for about 3 years now and I am OK, but if you look really close, well ……. ‘Sides, I have seen your painting and it easily trumps mine, so we’re even.

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I think this looks really, really good.
Perhaps the "neck" should have some wings or something, 'cause now it looks much like a swan.
If that is a look you like, it works, but if not, you should add something.

I know what you mean, and I like canards and have put some on a few of my other vehicles, but the long, slender look is what I was going for here and I am pretty happy with the result.

Update – part one SpeedFreek’s comment ties in to what I ended up doing with my tail fins. As shown previously, I originally had a couple of Reaver bladevanes as auxiliary fins on top of the outer nacelles, but I liked the look and location of them so much I enlarged them in plasticard and used these new ones instead of the cut down outer-wings from the second RW that I had been planning to use. Those just looked too big, in retrospect.

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The new tail fins are still not very big and actually are on the small side proportionately. But, it’s a bomber and not a fighter, so maximum speed in a straight-ish line is the most desired flight element, and that’s what these fins deliver. Smaller for less drag and a smaller target area, they are just enough to keep the aircraft flying straight and level, especially since they are augmented by another set of auxiliary fins underneath.

They also help give the bomber a very fast look and feel. That, plus the low priority for manoueverability were also factors in my not mounting canards anywhere on the front and keeping the slender front fuselage.

Here is the finished bomber after filling in the gaps with copious quantities of 50:50 Milliput and Green Stuff, and then spending copious time with the Dremel smoothing and blending it after it all dried. The forward magnet on the underside of the fuselage is for the eventual Void Mine. I made one, but the glue weakened the plastic in a couple of spots, with the result that I now have to think of something else Sad

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Update – part deux

Here are some shots of the finished Voidraven primed. As I suspected, the white primer was perfect for clearly showing every little imperfection in the filler where it’s edge meets the plastic. I will have to spend considerably more time fixing those up a bit more before I go any further, although I will only ever get them to a certain point, so I am not going to be too much of a perfectionist

Overall, I am very pleased with the proportions I achieved with this model, and with the overall look and feel of it. If I was to make another, I would do it exactly the same, I believe.

Anyway, hope you like it, will post more pics after it’s been painted.

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If it still is asymetrical, you have managed to hide it really well.
And not having a vertical fin in the middle of the hull really distinguises it from the Razorwing.


I think it looks awsome!



How is the balance?
Since you have added a lot of length and filling in the front and a lot of extra wing-span and body in the back, perhaps it evened out?
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@speedfreek wrote:
If it still is asymetrical, you have managed to hide it really well.
And not having a vertical fin in the middle of the hull really distinguises it from the Razorwing.

I think it looks awsome!

How is the balance?
Since you have added a lot of length and filling in the front and a lot of extra wing-span and body in the back, perhaps it evened out?

Thanks Speedfreek, and yes, I really wanted to set I apart fom the RW so that aspect of it is good. The asymmetry issue is still there, but it really is very minimal and aligning the model on the stand properly pretty much negates it. In fact, the model tilting on the stand is more of an issue than the slight misalignment.

The balance is fine, it sits on the stand no problem, with no inclination to topple in any one direction. The filler putty in the front is mostly counter-balanced by the greater amount of plastic in the rear half with the extra engines, etc.

Just to be sure, I put a good-sized magnet in the belly recess for the stand and another on top of the stand. I was worried about the balance from the beginning, but I was also annoyed out how often and how easily my RW comes off its stand in the middle of a game. But even before I put on the stand's magnet, it balanced quite nicely. Pure luck.
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THAT IS AMAZING!
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Oh Hell yes !!

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Looking fantastic!
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Saw this in the flesh last week, it's excellent!

Very nice work!
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Well done sir! cheers

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Here is the finished Voidraven bomber, after many hours of filing and sanding the filler mix of 1:1:1 greenstuff:terracotta Milliput:white Milliput that I used in the gaps and to shape the fillets on the fuselage. It dries incredibly hard, but then takes quite a bit of work to correct and finish. Many thanks to Hydra though, for recommending that I not use just GS.

The finished filler could have been better in a few places, despite my best efforts. But the paint scheme that I am using also highlights the slightest blemish like you would not believe.

Overall, I am very, very happy with this project. I love the look and feel of the aircraft, and think it complements the Razorwing very well whilst remaining quite distinct.

It is painted as a weathered veteran of many raids.

I have posted some comparison shots of the Voidraven and a Razorwing in the Aphotic Gallery.

C&C welcome.

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The blended canopies under the cockpit are barely visible, they streamlined quite nicely.
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Some more pics:

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The two canopies underneath the cockpit make my version of the perspex prism for the forward gunner, as described in the codex.
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Epiiiiiic !

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I want it … lol

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That Void Raven ist just awesome!

The only tiny bit of criticism I got is the open "topped" cockpit(s).
But that's not really changing anything about its awesomeness Wink

I want it.

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Big ol' slice of AWESOME! Well done sir.

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Thanks everyone.

@red_head wrote:
The only tiny bit of criticism I got is the open "topped" cockpit(s).

Yes, I seem to be in the minority with the open cockpits, but it's a theme consistent across all my DE vehicles - the pilots are maniacs who prefer the noise and blast of open-air they get from these half canopies.

Here are my second squad of Grotesques converted from Skaven Rat Ogres. I might have to re-take the pics at some point, they are in fact identical to first squad that I posted earlier in the thread, but somehow they have a yellow/orange hue in this photos, even though they were taken in the shade outside Sad

Full squad:

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Alternate Aberrations, one with Scissorhands and the other with a "Flesh Gauntlet":

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Liquifier - still needs a suitable fuel tank, I am waiting for some Burna tanks from Ork Lootaz:

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Regular Rat Ogres worked out very well once you fill the horrendous waist and shoulder gaps with GS. On their shoulders and backs, I blended it in with the fur already covering parts of their bodies.

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My other Grotesque gunner for my Coven Raider, this one with a Disintegrator:

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Nice Grots. I've done the same thing, using Rat Ogres and Talos heads. I still need to dress them up with some Talos parts and paint them though.

What is that circular saw blade thing on the arm of the top left one from the first picture?
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Looks to be a bit from the Killer Kans boxed set.
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@Nameless wrote:
..... What is that circular saw blade thing on the arm of the top left one from the first picture?

@Caelyr wrote:
Looks to be a bit from the Killer Kans boxed set.

Yes, there's a buzz saw from a Killer Kan and power klaw from a Nob mixed in there.
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My first Cronos and Talos. I love these models but can never get over how small they seem to be, considering how menacing and nasty I imagine them to be.

I want to also do a bigger, meaner Cronos and the recent Secret Santa raid gave me the opportunity to try it. More on that later.

These two are bog-standard, with the Talos having magnetised arms and tail for the various weapons options. I think I am going to reverse the colours on the Spirit Vortex so that they are more in line with the one I put on my Voidraven, and the antennae here on the Talos. It's too dark at the moment.

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Holy crap Gobs- we had the same idea for the extra splinter pod thingies! I'm posting mine later, but my Cronos has a very similar setup.(Those bladed racks look STUPID!)
great minds think alike? Laughing

Those two big boys are looking awesome. Tried them in any games yet?

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Awesome paintjob there. Got to agree, the splinter pods look very good on the carapace. Wish I had thought of that.
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Thanks Kenny and ESE!

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Holy crap Gobs- we had the same idea for the extra splinter pod thingies! I'm posting mine later, but my Cronos has a very similar setup.(Those bladed racks look STUPID!)
great minds think alike? Laughing

For sure they do! Very Happy STUPIDLY FRAGILE was the first thought that sprang to my mind, and I have already had enough of my precious new DE break little pointy bits Mad I almost didn't use the others on my Cronos for that reason, but they at least do look kewl.

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No, have been laying low during the build-up for the Christmas campaign. Probably have to wait until early- to mid-January Sad
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