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Greshym
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PostSubject: Checking for a pulse! 2k list idea   Checking for a pulse! 2k list idea I_icon_minitimeSun Jun 30 2019, 02:22

Hello fellow Archons. So to cut a long story short I last played Drukhari when Corpsethief Claw was still a legal formation (RIP 5xTalos unit) and aesthetically as well as play style I love my Kabal/Coven lists. I’ve been lurking a while and drawn up a quick list based off what I’ve seen and what I would like to take.
Feel free to pull the list apart as it was thrown together in about 5 minutes, but I’m mainly looking for guidance as well as explanation to how the combo’s work ie Writ of the Living Muse as I’ve spent the past couple of years playing Age of Sigmar with my Stormcast.

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PostSubject: Re: Checking for a pulse! 2k list idea   Checking for a pulse! 2k list idea I_icon_minitimeSun Jun 30 2019, 11:01

It's a strong list, only changes I'd make is giving the VR missiles and making them Black Heart too. Also remember to use the alliance of Agony strat to give your haemonculus Diabolical Soothesayer (1cp to get d3 CP back with free rerolls on your haemy) and buy the Vexator mask for him to force enemies who charge you to fight last. Writ of the muse is just an aura; keep your ravagers within the aura they get reroll 1s to wound.
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PostSubject: Re: Checking for a pulse! 2k list idea   Checking for a pulse! 2k list idea I_icon_minitimeSun Jun 30 2019, 19:06

I like the list a lot. The only thing you lack is scoring units. Warriors just aren't great for that.

One thing to consider is turning that haemonculus detachment into a battalion. If you dropped 2 talos and the blasters from the Archons, you could get 3 units of 5 wracks with an electro-whip, and Urien Rakarth. He'd power up those talos and PoF wracks are great objective squatters.
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PostSubject: Re: Checking for a pulse! 2k list idea   Checking for a pulse! 2k list idea I_icon_minitimeSun Jun 30 2019, 22:41

@sekac wrote:
I like the list a lot. The only thing you lack is scoring units. Warriors just aren't great for that.

One thing to consider is turning that haemonculus detachment into a battalion. If you dropped 2 talos and the blasters from the Archons, you could get 3 units of 5 wracks with an electro-whip, and Urien Rakarth. He'd power up those talos and PoF wracks are great objective squatters.

Second this I'm a big fan of Wracks, they're so good I've had to stop using them against my friends
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PostSubject: Re: Checking for a pulse! 2k list idea   Checking for a pulse! 2k list idea I_icon_minitimeMon Jul 01 2019, 02:02

I like the list a lot, it's very similar to a list I'm trying later this week:

BH Battaltion
Archon with Blaster, PGL
Archon with Blaster, Writ, Labyrinthian Cunning
3x5 Kabalites with a Blaster
3 Ravagers with 3 Dissies
3 Raiders with Dissie

BH Airwing
3 Razorwings with 2 Dissies, Twin splinter rifles

POF Spearhead
Haemonculus
3x2 Talos with Haywire Blasters, Scalpels and Flails

I think the overall idea of the list is to present a lot of high priority threats and play aggressively to saturate the opponent's decision-making process.

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PostSubject: Re: Checking for a pulse! 2k list idea   Checking for a pulse! 2k list idea I_icon_minitimeMon Jul 01 2019, 02:10

Thanks for the answers! So some serious food for thought!
I’ve actually reviewed the list myself just now and realized a major error... I had no transport for my Archons! Thanks to you Hydranixx I can see an obvious answer and a money saver to boot, swap out 2 Venoms for 2 Raiders! In fact most of my changes have brought me to a list that’s pretty much the exact same so let me know how your games go.
In answer to your suggestion, Sekac, about taking Wracks, tbh I’m not a fan of the models is the simple answer and I don’t wanna spend more money when I’ve already got the warriors.
Thanks again for the response
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PostSubject: Re: Checking for a pulse! 2k list idea   Checking for a pulse! 2k list idea I_icon_minitimeTue Jul 02 2019, 00:00

@Greshym wrote:
In answer to your suggestion, Sekac, about taking Wracks, tbh I’m not a fan of the models is the simple answer and I don’t wanna spend more money when I’ve already got the warriors.
Thanks again for the response

Fair enough, just a suggestion. As you expand your collection, they're something to keep in mind. Wracks are very easy to convert up too. Use those extra talos bits to kitbash anything mutated looking. I've got a squad of warhammer fantasy crypt ghouls for one of my wrack squads, for instance.
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PostSubject: Re: Checking for a pulse! 2k list idea   Checking for a pulse! 2k list idea I_icon_minitimeTue Jul 02 2019, 01:05

Sorry didn’t mean it to sound rude.
I have played a game using proxy Wracks though and can agree, they are tough bits to crack!
Main thing at the moment though is cost (money) effectiveness. Trying to save but want a 40k army to get playing with and it’s between Drukhari, which I own models for, or Tau which I don’t own. Granted my personal play style suits Tau and their bunker down and shoot but I don’t own any models barring Shadowsun and Aun’va.
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PostSubject: Re: Checking for a pulse! 2k list idea   Checking for a pulse! 2k list idea I_icon_minitimeWed Jul 03 2019, 23:07

@Greshym wrote:
so let me know how your games go.

I adjusted the list slightly, dropping one Talos to make Gangbusters secondary a little less appealing and Marked For Death secondary harder to auto achieve if they just focus hard on the Talos:

BH Battalion
Archon with Huskblade Blaster, PGL
Archon with Blaster, Writ, Labyrinthian Cunning
3x5 Kabalites with a Blaster
3 Ravagers with 3 Dissies, Shock Prows
3 Raiders with Dissie, Shock Prows
Venom

BH Airwing
3 Razorwings with 2 Dissies, Twin splinter rifles

POF Spearhead
Haemonculus with Electro Whip (Vex Mask)
1x1 Talos with Haywire Blasters, Scalpels and Flails
1x1 Talos with Haywire Blasters, Scalpels and Flails
1x3 Talos with Haywire Blasters, Scalpels and Flails


My game was against double Daemon battalions with 52 Plaguebearers, 30 Pink Horrors, 15 Bloodletters, 3 Nurgling Bases, 10 Brimstone Horrors, Khorne Skullcleaver Daemon Prince, two Nurgle characters, Changecaster, and the new Slaanesh mirror, and a Thousand Sons Supreme Command with two Daemon Princes and Ahriman.

I went 2nd, and it was a pretty close game, but I managed to come away with a 5 point win.


The list still gives up Big Game Hunter really easily, but that's a given with Dark Eldar. Because it only awards 3 points for Gangbusters, and Marked For Death needs to be specifically chosen for specific units which I can then play around by hiding them well, I'm ok with this. I'm going to tinker with it a little bit as I'd like a 2nd or 3rd Venom in there, or some Scourges with Haywire Blasters.

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PostSubject: Re: Checking for a pulse! 2k list idea   Checking for a pulse! 2k list idea I_icon_minitimeThu Jul 04 2019, 02:06

Thanks for the update. Been workin on my list a little more. One of my old gaming group is looking at getting back in to 40k too but starting 1k so trying to write a 2k list using 1k as a basis. Making my head hurt a little lol
Shall post an updated list attempt soon
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PostSubject: Re: Checking for a pulse! 2k list idea   Checking for a pulse! 2k list idea I_icon_minitimeThu Jul 11 2019, 12:26

So I've been working on my list and now I've hit a brick wall of "what do I take?"
I've got the list to;

Alliance of Agony -1CP
Battalion Detachment +5CP
Detachment Attribute- Kabal of the Black Heart
HQ
Archon
Selections: Blaster, Venom Blade, Warlord (Archon)
Writ of the Living Muse
Archon
Selections: Blaster, Venom Blade

Troops
3 Units of 5x Kabalite Warriors with Blaster upgrade

Heavy Support
3x Ravager
Selections: 3x Disintegrator cannon

Dedicated Transport
3x Venom
Selections: Splinter Cannon, Twin splinter rifle

Spearhead Detachment +1CP
Detachment Attribute- Prophets of Flesh
HQ
Haemonculus
Selections: Haemonculus tools, Splinter Pistol, Diabolical Soothsayer

Heavy Support
2x Talos
Selections: Chain-Flails, Macro-Scalpel, Haywire blaster

2x Talos
Selections: Chain-Flails, Macro-Scalpel, Haywire blaster

2x Talos
Selections: Chain-Flails, Macro-Scalpel, Haywire blaster

Total- 1555pts

So with the spare points I was thinking initially of taking an airwing with 2x Razorwings and a Voidraven but I don't feel confident in being able to use them effectively so I'm now torn between adding some Mandrakes, Incubi and a Raider to the battalion, making the second Archon more "combat" and dropping him in with Screaming Jets with the Incubi to hack up part of the enemy and the Mandrakes pop out the shadows to assassinate. Or adding some Wych cult, most likely a whole bunch of bikes.
I know the list is VERY short on scoring units but my idea would be to just use the warriors in venoms to secure any objectives while the rest of the army does the heavy lifting.

Thanks in advance
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