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Dogmar
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PostSubject: Returning player looking for guidance in 1k points   Returning player looking for guidance in 1k points I_icon_minitimeWed May 22 2019, 16:24

Hello fellow True Kin,

after years of not playing 40k for different reasons (the catastrophic rule set and update policy being one of them) my local club has started to pick 40k up again. I just returned from 6 months abroad and thus, am late to the party.

I will play some warm-up games at 1k points on Friday, which will probably go up to 1,5k+ in the following weeks.

Model-wise I have multiples of everything except coven stuff and RWJFs (only 1 Talos, 1 Flyer), so go nuts with suggestions. From my first look at the "new" rules, I think going Kabal with 3 Dissie Ravagers is probably a solid start.

Cheers,
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PostSubject: Re: Returning player looking for guidance in 1k points   Returning player looking for guidance in 1k points I_icon_minitimeWed May 22 2019, 20:06

You for sure want to start with a couple or 3 Ravagers with Dis Cannons.

After that play what you want, if you like Coven get more, if you like the Kabal vehicle feel get RWJF's.

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PostSubject: Re: Returning player looking for guidance in 1k points   Returning player looking for guidance in 1k points I_icon_minitimeThu May 23 2019, 15:27

Ok here's my list. Already looks pretty min-maxed, but with the new detachment restrictions of no mixing things, I found it hard to get a cult element like a unit of bikes into my 1k points.

Archon -96pts
Labyrinthine Cunning, Writ of the Living Muse, Huskblade, PGL, Blaster

Archon -96pts
Huskblade, PGL, Blaster

2x5 Kabalite Warriors, Blaster -47pts
1x10 Kabalite Warriors, 2x Blaster -94pts

2x Raider, Dissie -80pts
1x Raider, DL -85pts

3x Ravager, 3xDissies -125

1000pts on the nose.

Any comments, criticism, maybe ideas how to make the list a little more diverse even if it ends up less competetive. It's about getting back into the game, so a nice balanced list might be good for starters.

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PostSubject: Re: Returning player looking for guidance in 1k points   Returning player looking for guidance in 1k points I_icon_minitimeThu May 23 2019, 15:56

A cult detachment of 9 bikes n Succubus would set you back 221pts base so you might consider dropping the Kabal down to a spearhead and taking a batallion of wyches in Raiders instead if you're keen to get them in. Could also drop a lot of the wargear down to Venomblade and Splinter pistol on the labrynthine archon since he will be sat back with the raiders saving some points youd only be able to fit one raider in though I think
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PostSubject: Re: Returning player looking for guidance in 1k points   Returning player looking for guidance in 1k points I_icon_minitimeThu May 23 2019, 16:03

Quickly knocked this up in battlescribe as a base;

Batallion 1
Archon labrynthine venom blade pistol writ
Archon

3×5 kabalites

2 ravagers

2 raiders

Batallion 2

2 Succubus

3×5 wych

6 Reaver jetbikes

Comes to 982pts, so youd be lacking a bit of anti tank but have enough cp to get 2 WL traits and 3 Relics easily, and still have cp for everything else.
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PostSubject: Re: Returning player looking for guidance in 1k points   Returning player looking for guidance in 1k points I_icon_minitimeFri May 24 2019, 10:15

Thanks for the suggestions,

I made a second list, similar to the one GIzamaluke suggested, however I didn't like the lack of wargear options in that one so I ended up with a battalion and a patrol.
The list is as follows:

Black Heart Battalion:

Archon-96
Huskblade, PGL, Warlord (Cunning), Writ of the Living Muse

Archon-79
Huskblade, PGL, Splinter Pistol

3x5 Kabalite Warriors, Blaster -47 each

2x Raider, Dissies -80 each
1x Venom, stock -65

2x Ravager, all Dissies -125 each

Red Grief Patrol

Succubus, Blood Glaive, Quicksilver, Splinter Pistol -50

5 Wyches, Agonizer -44

6 Reavers, stock -114

Total 999pts

Any suggestions? I went with Red Grief to help out the Reavers with a potential first turn charge. Succubus and 2nd Archon will ride with Wyches in one of the Raiders, Kabalites take Venom and Second Raider. The Succubus should be great to take out HQs with a 3++ in melee, the non-WL Archon can help. Wyches are Agonizer delivery.

In firepower I'm a little light on anti-Infantry, but I have 8 multi-purpose Dissies so unless I face 120 Boyz I should be fine. What do you think?
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PostSubject: Re: Returning player looking for guidance in 1k points   Returning player looking for guidance in 1k points I_icon_minitimeTue Jul 02 2019, 01:27

Same situation myself actually, been out for a long time and looking at returning. Started with a 2k list and looking at what 1k list I can make from the units that go in to the 2k list. So far I’ve got;

Battalion Detachment +5CP
Kabal of the Black Heart
HQ
Archon: Blaster, Huskblade, Labyrinthine Cunning, Warlord (Archon)
Writ of the Living Muse
Archon: Blaster, Huskblade
Troops
5x Kabalite Warrior: Blaster
5x Kabalite Warrior: Blaster
5x Kabalite Warrior: Blaster
Heavy Support
3x Ravager: 3xDisintegrator cannons
Dedicated Transport
2x Raider: Disintegrator cannon
Venom: Splinter Cannon, Twin splinter rifle

Total- 927pts

Just debating what I could do with the remaining points.
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PostSubject: Re: Returning player looking for guidance in 1k points   Returning player looking for guidance in 1k points I_icon_minitimeWed Jul 03 2019, 09:14

Just remember the rule of 2 for 1000pts Greshym. You will have to drop that 3rd Ravager.
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PostSubject: Re: Returning player looking for guidance in 1k points   Returning player looking for guidance in 1k points I_icon_minitimeThu Jul 04 2019, 01:59

Rule of 2?
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PostSubject: Re: Returning player looking for guidance in 1k points   Returning player looking for guidance in 1k points I_icon_minitimeThu Jul 04 2019, 12:21

There is a chart they added to the BRB saying how many detachments and duplicates you can have at different points values. At 1000pts it's up to 2 detachments and no more than 2 of any datasheet. (Troops and transports don't have this limit)
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PostSubject: Re: Returning player looking for guidance in 1k points   Returning player looking for guidance in 1k points I_icon_minitimeThu Jul 04 2019, 13:49


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PostSubject: Re: Returning player looking for guidance in 1k points   Returning player looking for guidance in 1k points I_icon_minitimeThu Jul 04 2019, 14:59

Fair, been out for ages so rules will slip by. Thanks for the heads up
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