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PostSubject: Black Heart +Propehts of Flesh Tournament List.   Black Heart +Propehts of Flesh Tournament List. I_icon_minitimeThu May 09 2019, 20:09

Black Heart batallion
Archont 72 Labyrinthine Cunning/WRIT OF THE LIVING MUSE-agonizer
Archont 76 Huskblade (boody guard of the hemonculus)
5 kabalite warriors 38 Shredder
5 kabalite warriors 38 Shredder
5 kabalite warriors 30

1 venom 65 canon-doble rifle
1 venom 65 canon-doble rifle

ravager 125 3x desintegrators
ravager 125 3x desintegrators
ravager 125 3x desintegrators
razorwing doble rifle/desintegrador 135

894

patroll
hemunculus 70-hemonculos tools and spilter pistol //Diabolical Soothsayer vexator mask
5 wraks 45

3 talos 294 x2 haywareblasters ,chains and macro-scalpel.
2 talos 196 x2 haywareblasters ,chains and macro-scalpel.
scalpel.

605

Command Points 3+5+1d3.

1499

I worry about the psychic powers. The helm of spite is fundamental or an optional?
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PostSubject: Re: Black Heart +Propehts of Flesh Tournament List.   Black Heart +Propehts of Flesh Tournament List. I_icon_minitimeThu May 09 2019, 23:27

If you take the talos as 2-2-1 you get a spearhead for +1Cp
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PostSubject: Re: Black Heart +Propehts of Flesh Tournament List.   Black Heart +Propehts of Flesh Tournament List. I_icon_minitimeFri May 10 2019, 12:42

yes i made some changes. I add Reaper for the str 8 shots and I like the model. The Helm of spite to deny some power like Jinx, but I see that my rivals by chance will be custudes, mechanicus, taus hahaha.

Black heart Batallion detachment.+5
Warlord/Archont 74 Labyrinthine Cunning/WRIT OF THE LIVING MUSE-agonizer pw 4
Archont 86 Huskblade pw 4/Blast Pistol.
5 kabalite warriors 41 Shredder pw 2/Sibarites phaton granade laucher.
5 kabalite warriors 38 Shredder pw 2
5 kabalite warriors 30 pw 2

1 venom 65 canon-doble rifle pw 4
1 venom 65 canon-doble rifle pw 4

ravager 125 3x desintegrators pw 8
ravager 125 3x desintegrators pw 8
razorwing x2 desintegrador 135s pw8
1 reaper 150 pw 9

spearhead +1
hemunculus 76-Electrocorrosive wipth. //Diabolical Soothsayer vexator mask-Pintado PW 4

2 talos 196 x2 haywareblasters ,chains and macro-scalpel. pw 12
2 talos 196 x2 haywareblasters ,chains and macro-scalpel. pw 12
1 talos 98 haywareblasters ,chains and macro-scalpel pw 6


Command Points 3+5+1+1d3

Relics-Hemunculus Vexator Mask
Archont-Warlord- Writ of the living muse.
Archont-Helm of Spite.
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PostSubject: Re: Black Heart +Propehts of Flesh Tournament List.   Black Heart +Propehts of Flesh Tournament List. I_icon_minitimeFri May 10 2019, 14:00

You don't actually have to choose relics/warlord traits before the tournament, that's something you can change on a game by game basis.

The reaper is a nice model, but it really doesn't have a place in a tournament list. It's just straight up worse than a dark lance ravager. Yeah, potentially it's more shots, but I'd much rather have the consistency of 3 guaranteed shots every turn, not to mention being a heavy weapon with only 36" range isn't great, ravagers don't have the problem of losing accuracy when they move.

What format is this tournament? If it's scoring heavy like ITC, I think you're going to struggle with objectives. Talos, ravagers and razorwings are great, but except for your 15 minimally equipped warriors, you have very few units that will do a good job contesting objectives and provide board control. I've found even at 1500 ideally you want 4 5 man warrior units in venoms, or raiders to save some pts, and they should all have a special weapon for a bit more bite, 5 warriors just with poison doesn't contribute a whole lot. I'm a fan of wracks for that role as well, I have an ITC tournament coming up and I'm thinking of using 15 wracks for some objective holding and board control.

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PostSubject: Re: Black Heart +Propehts of Flesh Tournament List.   Black Heart +Propehts of Flesh Tournament List. I_icon_minitimeSun May 12 2019, 23:48

Wracks are excellent in controlling the map, always put a hexrifle on the squad leader so that you can use fire and fade to get an additional 7' move. Also, the stratagem to redeploy them is very good, you can teleport them onto an objective marker.

I agree, the Reaper is useless, and I'd add a few corrections on the Archon loadouts :
Warlord/Archont 74 Labyrinthine Cunning/WRIT OF THE LIVING MUSE-agonizer pw 4
Archont 86 Huskblade pw 4/Blast Pistol.

The agonizer should be replaced by a venom blade, cheaper and better. You want your Archon to hit on 2+, wound on 2+ to clear infantry units. Believe me, he will never be a hard hitter so if you rely on this -2 AP to do anything, I don't understand your plan ...

The Blast pistol has a very small range, so you'll use it maybe once in a game. Just check the cost and think it twice. The huskblade has the same issue as the agonizer. Really, if you don't know why you're taking an equipment, well just don't take it Smile

If you have spare points, take more kabalites or consider taking splinter canons on the venom (even though it's still too expensive, but at least you'll get to use them)

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PostSubject: Re: Black Heart +Propehts of Flesh Tournament List.   Black Heart +Propehts of Flesh Tournament List. I_icon_minitimeTue May 14 2019, 13:02

Yes, the wraks are great, but I noticed a lack of firepower and they came out more expensive.
Change the reaper for a ravager with 3 spears. In this hemisphere the metagame takes a few months to update. There are many eldar ,monocodex imperial players and few soups.

Kabal of the Black Heart Battalion

Archon [4 PL, 72pts]Selections: Labyrinthine Cunning, Splinter pistol, Venom Blade [2pts], Warlord (Archon)Writ of the Living Muse

Archon [4 PL, 76pts] Selections: Huskblade [6pts], Splinter pistol
The Helm of Spite


Troops [6 PL, 106pts] Kabalite Warriors [2 PL, 38pts]
3x Kabalite Warrior [18pts] Kabalite Warrior with special weapon [14pts] Selections: Shredder [8pts] Sybarite [6pts]


Troops [6 PL, 106pts] Kabalite Warriors [2 PL, 38pts]
3x Kabalite Warrior [18pts] Kabalite Warrior with special weapon [14pts] Selections: Shredder [8pts] Sybarite [6pts]

Kabalite Warriors [2 PL, 30pts] Infantry, Kabalite Warriors, Troops
4x Kabalite Warrior [24pts] Sybarite [6pts]


Heavy Support [21 PL, 390pts]
Ravager [7 PL, 125pts]
Selections: Disintegrator cannon [15pts], Disintegrator cannon [15pts], Disintegrator cannon [15pts]

Ravager [7 PL, 125pts]
Selections: Disintegrator cannon [15pts], Disintegrator cannon [15pts], Disintegrator cannon [15pts]

Ravager [7 PL, 140pts]
Selections: Dark Lance [20pts], Dark Lance [20pts], Dark Lance [20pts]

Razorwing Jetfighter [8 PL, 135pts]
Selections: Twin splinter rifle
2 Disintegrator Cannons [30pts]


Dedicated Transport [8 PL, 150pts]

Venom [4 PL, 75pts]
Selections: Splinter Cannon [10pts], Splinter Cannon [10pts]
Venom [4 PL, 75pts]

Selections: Splinter Cannon [10pts], Splinter Cannon [10pts]
Venom [4 PL, 75pts]


Spearhead Detachment +1CP (Aeldari - Drukhari) [35 PL, 571pts]
Prophets of Flesh

HQ [5 PL, 81pts]
Haemonculus [5 PL, 81pts]
Selections: Diabolical Soothsayer, Electrocorrosive whip [6pts], Haemonculus tools, Ichor Injector [5pts], Splinter Pistol
The Vexator Mask

Heavy Support [30 PL, 490pts]
2xTalos [12 PL, 196pts] Selections: Chain-Flails [3pts], Macro-Scalpel [4pts] Two Haywire Blasters [16pts]

2xTalos [12 PL, 196pts] Selections: Chain-Flails [3pts], Macro-Scalpel [4pts] Two Haywire Blasters [16pts]

Talos [6 PL 98 pts] Selections: Chain-Flails [3pts], Macro-Scalpel [4pts] Two Haywire Blasters [16pts]

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