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PostSubject: I finally pulled the trigger on my Drukhari list   I finally pulled the trigger on my Drukhari list I_icon_minitimeSun Apr 28 2019, 23:27

Hey Guy's

I went a little nuts this weekend and purchased most of the bit's I'd need for my reaver which cult army. I know the internet says that reavers aren't the ducks nuts this edition, but I love the look of them. So here it is.

I'm going to experiment with cult of red grief and strife obsessions. I'm leaning towards strife for that 4 attacks on the charge for those reavers. Also love the scourge models and am thinking about grabbing another unit for that extra anti tank, do you think its needed? I've also added the Visarch, given the rumours are you can use him in a drakhari list now with no penalty. Love the model and he give that hq variety we lack.

So advice, keep it constructive. I'm keeping the reavers, so give me advice on what you think I need to make the army viable, what holes can you see? Would love to hear about the weaknesses you see, incase I haven't already thought of them. Don't get too hung up on combat drug locations, if they're correct at the moment etc, I'd love to hear how you would allocate them.

Have at it

About 2k (have a a little to play with)

Battalion Detachment, Cult of Strife


HQ

The Visarch
Succubus, Archite Glaive, Blast Pistol

Troops

Wyches, Splintermind (Combat Drug)
. Hekatrix: Agoniser, Phantasm Grenade Launcher, Splinter pistol
. 3x Wych
. Wych with Wych Weapon: Shardnet and impaler

Wyches, Grave Lotus (Combat Drug)
. Hekatrix: Agoniser, Phantasm Grenade Launcher, Splinter pistol
. 7x Wych
. Wych with Wych Weapon: Shardnet and impaler

Wyches, Adrenalight (Combat Drug)
. Hekatrix: Agoniser, Phantasm Grenade Launcher, Splinter pistol
. 7x Wych
. Wych with Wych Weapon: Shardnet and impaler

Wyches, Grave Lotus (Combat Drug)
. Hekatrix: Agoniser, Phantasm Grenade Launcher, Splinter pistol
. 7x Wych
. Wych with Wych Weapon: Shardnet and impaler

Fast Attack

Scourges
. Scourge with Special / Heavy weapon: Haywire blaster
. Scourge with Special / Heavy weapon: Haywire blaster
. Scourge with Special / Heavy weapon: Haywire blaster
. Scourge with Special / Heavy weapon: Haywire blaster
. Solarite: Shardcarbine

Dedicated Transport

Raider, Disintegrator cannon
Raider, Disintegrator cannon
Raider, Disintegrator cannon
Venom, Splinter Cannon, Twin splinter rifle



Outrider Detachment Cult of Strife

HQ

Lelith Hesperax

Fast Attack

Reavers, Adrenalight (Combat Drug), 2x Grav-Talon
. Arena Champion
. 3x Reaver
. 2x Reaver with special weapon Blaster

Reavers, Adrenalight (Combat Drug), 2x Grav-Talon
. Arena Champion
. 3x Reaver
. 2x Reaver with special weapon Blaster

Reavers, Adrenalight (Combat Drug), 2x Grav-Talon
. Arena Champion
. 3x Reaver
. 2x Reaver with special weapon Blaster

Reavers, Adrenalight (Combat Drug), 2x Grav-Talon
. Arena Champion
. 3x Reaver
. 2x Reaver with special weapon Blaster


Air Wing Detachment

Kabal of the Black Heart

Razorwing Jetfighter 2x Disintegrator cannon

Razorwing Jetfighter  2x Disintegrator cannon

Razorwing Jetfighter 2x Disintegrator cannon
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PostSubject: Re: I finally pulled the trigger on my Drukhari list   I finally pulled the trigger on my Drukhari list I_icon_minitimeSun Apr 28 2019, 23:38

You cant give them all adrenalite til you've spent all 6 drugs and theres a rule of 3 that prevents you taking more than 3 of each kind of unit. Another squad of Scourges would definitely help break open raiders and such.
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PostSubject: Re: I finally pulled the trigger on my Drukhari list   I finally pulled the trigger on my Drukhari list I_icon_minitimeMon Apr 29 2019, 00:01

Thanks mate. I know about the drugs issue. Will make sure that’s correct before I play, more interested in how you guys would share those drugs around if you had to play with this list.

To fit the extra scourges, I drop the venom and small wych squad.
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PostSubject: Re: I finally pulled the trigger on my Drukhari list   I finally pulled the trigger on my Drukhari list I_icon_minitimeMon Apr 29 2019, 00:12

I'd probably go for;
Succubus +1A
Wych 1 +1S
Wych 2 +1S
Wych 3 +2Ld
Big Reaver squad 1 +1T
Small Reaver squad +1WS
Small Reaver squad +2M

Combine two of those Reaver squads into a 12 man squad, If you took the double up drug WL train on the Succubus you could get +1S on all 3 wych squads. Then you could swap the agonisers for powerswords for the extra ap if you're gonna be hunting t4 and lower with them it's more efficient.
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PostSubject: Re: I finally pulled the trigger on my Drukhari list   I finally pulled the trigger on my Drukhari list I_icon_minitimeMon Apr 29 2019, 00:14

What you thinking for relic on the Succubus?
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PostSubject: Re: I finally pulled the trigger on my Drukhari list   I finally pulled the trigger on my Drukhari list I_icon_minitimeMon Apr 29 2019, 00:28

Not really sure, am still tossing up between red grid and strife, what do you think? .Didn’t realise the double drug trait would do that. Wouldn’t a big squad of reavers be more susceptible to moral losses?
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PostSubject: Re: I finally pulled the trigger on my Drukhari list   I finally pulled the trigger on my Drukhari list I_icon_minitimeMon Apr 29 2019, 00:40

It's a hard one because if you were to go red grief you would wanna do it on the bikes really for the turn 1 charge potential but then lelith would need to go in the batallion which prevents you taking the Visarch, so then you have to pit him in the Outrider meaning your Succubus is locked in to Cult of Strife with Lelith and the Wyches.
If you went that route, I'd go for a blood dancer tryptich whip succubus (since she can get +1 to hit turn 3 and activate it easier than blood dancer on lelith).
My experience has show that a big squad of Reaver bikes with T drugs and Lightning fast reactions can draw a lot of firepower and still be fine, and you always have a 2cp auto pass if you need it.
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PostSubject: Re: I finally pulled the trigger on my Drukhari list   I finally pulled the trigger on my Drukhari list I_icon_minitimeMon Apr 29 2019, 06:30

How does Lilith prevent me from taking the visarch?
I’m not really set on her anyway, I just put her in to keep my hqs from being cut and paste. If it doesn’t make sense, she can go.

I forgot about the moral cp thing. Cheers.
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PostSubject: Re: I finally pulled the trigger on my Drukhari list   I finally pulled the trigger on my Drukhari list I_icon_minitimeMon Apr 29 2019, 07:20

New rules he cant be in a detachment with named characters, mandrake or Coven stuff
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PostSubject: Re: I finally pulled the trigger on my Drukhari list   I finally pulled the trigger on my Drukhari list I_icon_minitimeMon Apr 29 2019, 08:23

Yeah okay, more interested in him than Lilith. Will play around with that.

Whats your thoughts on the blasters on the bikes? Given that the aim is to have them in combat, you are going to be missing rounds of shooting with them. If I pulled them all off I could get a blaster scourge squad easy. Worth it?
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PostSubject: Re: I finally pulled the trigger on my Drukhari list   I finally pulled the trigger on my Drukhari list I_icon_minitimeMon Apr 29 2019, 10:04

It would probably be more efficient to have the blasters/haywire on a Scourge squad than the Reavers yeah, since if you're going red grief on the reavers you'll be advancing so only shooting the blasters on 4+. Theres no problem having lelith and Succubus in the batallion and visarch leading the red grief Outrider, he can ride in the venom or one of the raiders with the wyches still.
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PostSubject: Re: I finally pulled the trigger on my Drukhari list   I finally pulled the trigger on my Drukhari list I_icon_minitimeMon Apr 29 2019, 11:55

That’ll be 3 scourge units,, but 4 less anti tank weapons in total.
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PostSubject: Re: I finally pulled the trigger on my Drukhari list   I finally pulled the trigger on my Drukhari list I_icon_minitimeMon Apr 29 2019, 22:43

So now I'm sitting something more like this.

++ Battalion Detachment +5CP (Aeldari - Drukhari) [51 PL, 8CP, 885pts] ++

+ No Force Org Slot +

Battle-forged CP [3CP]

Detachment Attribute: Cult of Strife

Detachment CP [5CP]

Fixed Combat Drug Selections

+ HQ +

Succubus [4 PL, 50pts]: Archite Glaive, Splinter pistol

Succubus [4 PL, 54pts]: Adrenalight (Combat Drug), Agoniser, Archite Glaive, Blood Dancer, The Triptych Whip, Warlord (Succubus)

+ Troops +

Wyches [4 PL, 84pts]
. Hekatrix: Agoniser, Phantasm Grenade Launcher, Splinter pistol
. 7x Wych
. Wych with Wych Weapon: Shardnet and impaler

Wyches [4 PL, 84pts]: Grave Lotus (Combat Drug)
. Hekatrix: Agoniser, Phantasm Grenade Launcher, Splinter pistol
. 7x Wych
. Wych with Wych Weapon: Shardnet and impaler

Wyches [4 PL, 84pts]: Serpentin (Combat Drug)
. Hekatrix: Agoniser, Phantasm Grenade Launcher, Splinter pistol
. 7x Wych
. Wych with Wych Weapon: Shardnet and impaler

Wyches [2 PL, 40pts]: Splintermind (Combat Drug)
. Hekatrix: Hekatarii blade, Splinter pistol
. 4x Wych

+ Fast Attack +

Scourges [5 PL, 92pts]
. Scourge with Special / Heavy weapon: Haywire blaster
. Scourge with Special / Heavy weapon: Haywire blaster
. Scourge with Special / Heavy weapon: Haywire blaster
. Scourge with Special / Heavy weapon: Haywire blaster
. Solarite: Shardcarbine

Scourges [5 PL, 92pts]
. Scourge with Special / Heavy weapon: Haywire blaster
. Scourge with Special / Heavy weapon: Haywire blaster
. Scourge with Special / Heavy weapon: Haywire blaster
. Scourge with Special / Heavy weapon: Haywire blaster
. Solarite: Shardcarbine

+ Dedicated Transport +

Raider [5 PL, 80pts]: Disintegrator cannon

Raider [5 PL, 80pts]: Disintegrator cannon

Raider [5 PL, 80pts]: Disintegrator cannon

Venom [4 PL, 65pts]: Splinter Cannon, Twin splinter rifle

++ Outrider Detachment +1CP (Aeldari - Drukhari) [29 PL, 1CP, 608pts] ++

+ No Force Org Slot +

Detachment Attribute: Cult of the Red Grief

Detachment CP [1CP]

Fixed Combat Drug Selections

+ Fast Attack +

Reavers [6 PL, 120pts]: Arena Champion, 2x Grav-Talon, Hypex (Combat Drug), 5x Reaver

Reavers [6 PL, 120pts]: Arena Champion, 2x Grav-Talon, Painbringer (Combat Drug), 5x Reaver

Reavers [6 PL, 120pts]: Adrenalight (Combat Drug), Arena Champion, 2x Grav-Talon, 5x Reaver

Reavers [6 PL, 120pts]: Adrenalight (Combat Drug), Arena Champion, 2x Grav-Talon, 5x Reaver

Scourges [5 PL, 128pts]
. Scourge with Special / Heavy weapon: Blaster
. Scourge with Special / Heavy weapon: Blaster
. Scourge with Special / Heavy weapon: Blaster
. Scourge with Special / Heavy weapon: Blaster
. Solarite: Shardcarbine

++ Air Wing Detachment +1CP (Aeldari - Drukhari) [24 PL, 1CP, 405pts] ++

+ No Force Org Slot +

Detachment Attribute: Kabal of the Black Heart

Detachment CP [1CP]

+ Flyer +

Razorwing Jetfighter [8 PL, 135pts]: Twin splinter rifle
. 2 Disintegrator Cannons: 2x Disintegrator cannon

Razorwing Jetfighter [8 PL, 135pts]: Twin splinter rifle
. 2 Disintegrator Cannons: 2x Disintegrator cannon

Razorwing Jetfighter [8 PL, 135pts]: Twin splinter rifle
. 2 Disintegrator Cannons: 2x Disintegrator cannon

++ Auxiliary Support Detachment -1CP (Aeldari - Ynnari) [7 PL, 141pts] ++

+ HQ +

The Visarch [7 PL, 141pts]

++ Total: [111 PL, 10CP, 2039pts] ++

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PostSubject: Re: I finally pulled the trigger on my Drukhari list   I finally pulled the trigger on my Drukhari list I_icon_minitimeMon Apr 29 2019, 22:52

Again If you're gonna play matched play you need to drop a unit of Reavers since you can only have 3 of each Unit nowadays.
Just merge a squad into one big one.
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PostSubject: Re: I finally pulled the trigger on my Drukhari list   I finally pulled the trigger on my Drukhari list I_icon_minitimeMon Apr 29 2019, 23:33

Okay I see why you said that now. Cheers
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PostSubject: Re: I finally pulled the trigger on my Drukhari list   I finally pulled the trigger on my Drukhari list I_icon_minitimeTue Apr 30 2019, 03:28

Piggy-backing in the conversation above, I'd recommend combing the reavers in two squads of 6, one of 12. I'd
also distribute the combat drugs as follows (don't have my book handy, and can never remember drug names):

Succubus w/Archite Glaive: +2 Ld
Succubus w/Triptych whip: +1 A

Wych 1: +2 WS
Wych 2: +1 S
Wych 3: +1 S
Small Wych: +2 MoV

Reavers 1: +1 A
Reavers 2: +1 A
Large Reavers: +1 T

Reasoning:
-Archite Glaive succubus is a tax, put useless drugs on her
-Triptych whip: more attacks means more chances to multiply attacks.
-reavers have the highest quality attacks, so +1A enhances that, but the large squad needs to be protected.
-wyches have the poorest quality attacks, but the highest quantity, +1 S is the best drug for Cult of Strife Wyches.
-+2 Mov for the small wyches because they're your objective grabbers. +1 WS on the other wyches, because somebody has to take it.

Also, your latest interation of the list is illegal. Perhaps it's a formatting error... your Outrider detachment has no HQ. But then you have an auxiliary support detachment consisting only of The Visarch. Is he supposed to lead the Outrider, or do you have a missing succubus?


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PostSubject: Re: I finally pulled the trigger on my Drukhari list   I finally pulled the trigger on my Drukhari list I_icon_minitimeTue Apr 30 2019, 03:58

Yeah for now there isn’t an option for the visarch yo lead a dark Eldar detachment. So that’s how I’ve done it.
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PostSubject: Re: I finally pulled the trigger on my Drukhari list   I finally pulled the trigger on my Drukhari list I_icon_minitimeTue Apr 30 2019, 13:58

Okay I didn't realize that. Dang. Still though, it's an illegal list without an HQ for your Outrider detachment.
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PostSubject: Re: I finally pulled the trigger on my Drukhari list   I finally pulled the trigger on my Drukhari list I_icon_minitimeTue Apr 30 2019, 14:59

The visarch can lead the Outrider he just hadn't put him in their on battlescribe, if you update it you can choose for him to lead the Outrider now
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