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PostSubject: Oldish Player new to codex, 2000 points   Oldish Player new to codex, 2000 points I_icon_minitimeMon Mar 25 2019, 23:52

Hi all, I have never actually played a game with the new codex, and I don't want anything to do with Coven.  I'm playing a Guard player with a roughly 50/50 mix infantry and vehicles and may have one of the medium knights thrown in as well.  Some Leman Russes, Possibly Pask in a punisher (all Heavy bolter sponsons), 1 Basilisk, a couple Chimera, no large unit(s) of Conscripts, no separate heavy weapons teams but 3 buried in squads (I think those are mostly autocannons  pale ).  At least one commissar and he's running Creed and Cadians (although I don't think he has Krell).

Here's the list I'm currently working with

Battalion - Obsidian Rose
HQ
Archon (Warlord), Deathly Perfectionist, Armor of Misery, Huskblade, Blaster
Archon, Power sword, Blaster
Troops
5 Warriors, 1 Blaster
5 Warriors, 1 Blaster
5 Warriors, 1 Blaster
20 Warriors, 4 Shredders, 2 Splinter cannons
Dedicated Transport
Venom, Splinter Cannon
Venom, Splinter Cannon
Venom, Splinter Cannon
Heavy Support
Ravager, Disintegrator Cannons
Ravager, Disintegrator Cannons
Ravager, Disintegrator Cannons

Battalion - Cult of Strife
HQ
Succubus, Archite Glaive, Stimm Addict, CD +1 Strength and Weapon Skill
Succubus, Archite Glaive, CD +2 Leadership
Troops
5 Wyches, CD +1 Attack
5 Wyches, CD +1 Attack
10 Wyches, CD +1 Toughness
Dedicated Transport
Raider, Disintegrator Cannon
Raider, Disintegrator Cannon
Raider, Disintegrator Cannon
Flyers
Razorwing, Disintegrator Cannons
Razorwing, Disintegrator Cannons

Auxillary - Red Grief
11 Reaver Jetbikes, Agoniser, CD +2 Movement

Total - 1999 points and 11 Command Points

The plan is to put the 20 Kab squad in webway and have the 2-point Obsidian Rose stratagem on hand in the likely event they take damage after (hopefully) clearing some screens, opening up the Reavers, Wyches, and Raiders to tie up units in combat and the rest of the kabs to go objective hunting and pick off isolated units.  With any luck I can use the Strife stratagem on the Razorwings (because they are cult Strife)

Here is the collection of models I have to make changes with, I would also like to hear thoughts on how I've spent my pre-game command points and how I've chosen combat drugs.

Collection

3 Ravagers
3 Venoms
2 Razorwings
6 Raiders

11 Reavers
10 Hellions
60 Warriors
40 Wyches
5 Archons or 4 Archons and Counts-as Drazhar
3 Succubi (I don’t mind proxying a Succubus or my Counts-as Drazhar as Lelith)

The list below are models from before the update, so I'd rather not use them unless highly recommended
10 Mandrakes
10 Reavers
5 Incubi
1 Raider

None of:  Voidravens, Beasts and their masters, Coven stuff, other Aeldari
Would be willing to buy:  1 Squad of Scourges (in the short-term)

Thank you for your insight and criticisms.

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PostSubject: Re: Oldish Player new to codex, 2000 points   Oldish Player new to codex, 2000 points I_icon_minitimeTue Mar 26 2019, 04:08

I'm curious. This is similar to what I'm planning. I also shy away from Coven.

I'd look at moving all of the vehicles to Kabalites as the Obsessions are more beneficial.

With Strife I would run Lelith.

I think the blob of twenty should keep a good distraction going, but what are your plans to distract on turn 1?
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PostSubject: Re: Oldish Player new to codex, 2000 points   Oldish Player new to codex, 2000 points I_icon_minitimeTue Mar 26 2019, 08:51

Looks like a great list to start playing, play this list a few times before changing anything so you can get used to the rules and actually learn the game and army list. Have fun.

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Amish has good points.
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PostSubject: Re: Oldish Player new to codex, 2000 points   Oldish Player new to codex, 2000 points I_icon_minitimeTue Mar 26 2019, 19:24

Wow thanks Amish I'll give it a spin.

@Myrvn the Red Grief 11-man Reaver squad with +2 Movement hopefully can get across the table and sacrifice themselves ignobly to buy time for my other forces. Rest assured. They will be revived to ride another day.

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PostSubject: Re: Oldish Player new to codex, 2000 points   Oldish Player new to codex, 2000 points I_icon_minitimeTue Mar 26 2019, 21:09

That's a nice list. Just keep in mind you can't webway out of your deployment zone before turn 2 anymore. So, I'm not sure the 20 kabs would deal enough damage. But they're Obsidian Rose. So... maybe.
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PostSubject: Re: Oldish Player new to codex, 2000 points   Oldish Player new to codex, 2000 points I_icon_minitimeWed Mar 27 2019, 00:25

I didn't realize the auxiliary units still got Obsessions... I may need to look at that a little closer.
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PostSubject: Re: Oldish Player new to codex, 2000 points   Oldish Player new to codex, 2000 points I_icon_minitimeWed Mar 27 2019, 01:38

@dumpeal wrote:
That's a nice list. Just keep in mind you can't webway out of your deployment zone before turn 2 anymore. So, I'm not sure the 20 kabs would deal enough damage. But they're Obsidian Rose. So... maybe.

Well I know he's bringing <100 total infantry so I don't need it to move mountains. And thank you for the reminder about the webway thing. With that in mind I guess I can't count on tying up vehicles on turn 1 (more likely I can count on not having that opportunity). Although, I'm sure I will still have more than enough targets for my big squad when it comes in, and hopefully this will tear a hole large enough for my melee units to charge into his commander characters and their retinues. As for the tanks, I will definitely move the Raiders to Obsidian Rose as suggested and they may charge in as well to tie up at least some of his tanks (or maybe even kill one or two).

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