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PostSubject: Terrible idea - stupid or viable?   Wed Nov 21 2018, 14:58

I've signed up for a doubles tournament.
900pts per person, one Detachment, shared CPs.
Plenty of time to work out what I'm actually taking.
Funny feeling partner is considering Death Guard (yes, its allowed).

The terrible idea - Beastmasters. And Beasts. And nothing but (in my half).

Can it work? Is it awful?
Discuss.
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PostSubject: Re: Terrible idea - stupid or viable?   Wed Nov 21 2018, 15:16

If you do it, go Hamei with whip and diabolical soothsayer for the +D3 CP's
(you dont need a cult as you wont benefit, so why not?)
2 beastmasters
3x 12 flocks
2x 12 dogs
1x 8 dogs

900 points.

That is if the rule of 3 is in effect, if not, go all birds.
Would be a fun list, and only viable due to the support of your partner.

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PostSubject: Re: Terrible idea - stupid or viable?   Wed Nov 21 2018, 19:08

Thats a good idea.... Beast dont benefit from cults so you can mix/match, nice.

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PostSubject: Re: Terrible idea - stupid or viable?   Thu Nov 22 2018, 03:06

You are limited to nine squads, requiring an HQ for every 3. (p. 114 of codex)

Id go with wych cults for at least two of the squads, BM isn't awful in combat and hes gonna wanna be near his beastys.

flocks are crazy good still, they just soak up so much fire. Khymera are OK, CF are bad grots, but their D2 isnt bad for light tanks i hear.

So id just tell him not to bother with pox walkers, bring all the guns while you handle screens and melee.





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PostSubject: Re: Terrible idea - stupid or viable?   Thu Nov 22 2018, 13:19

Hmm. So stupid numbers of flocks you say?
I suppsoe each beastmaster basically allows unlimited Beast units not counting towards slots....

So 900pts, would give me a Vangaurd:

HQ:
Haemonculus (70)

ELITES:
Beastmaster (36)
Beastmaster (36)
Beastmaster (36)

FAST/NONE
6x Razorwings (42)
6x Razorwings (42)
6x Razorwings (42)
6x Razorwings (42)
6x Razorwings (42)
6x Razorwings (42)
6x Razorwings (42)
6x Razorwings (42)
3x Razorwings (42)
(can be adjusted into other sized units of course. This gives me 51 individual models to work with.)

Could this actually be a viable wound-soaking monstrosity?!

And how do you think people would feel if I used something like THESE to represent those flocks? Smile
And what if I tried to make them look like they're on fire?
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PostSubject: Re: Terrible idea - stupid or viable?   Thu Nov 22 2018, 13:24

I think you misunderstood me. The matches play rule limits you to 3 packs per detachment, requiring at least one beast master each detachment.

Also is the scourge a weapon still? I thought he had to take a agoniser now


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PostSubject: Re: Terrible idea - stupid or viable?   Thu Nov 22 2018, 14:44

No Ro2?

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PostSubject: Re: Terrible idea - stupid or viable?   Thu Nov 22 2018, 15:15

Oh yeah, so you have to factor that in too.

So you could run triple patrol, 2 cult, 1 coven

3 hqs - 240ish
3 bm- 120ish
3 troops - 150ish
490 points of beasts left


Or 1 cult 1 coven both as outrider, although i don’t know if you elect to have a free detachment fill instead

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PostSubject: Re: Terrible idea - stupid or viable?   Thu Nov 22 2018, 15:39

@RedRegicide wrote:
Oh yeah, so you have to factor that in too.

So you could run triple patrol, 2 cult, 1 coven

3 hqs - 240ish
3 bm- 120ish
3 troops - 150ish
490 points of beasts left


Or 1 cult 1 coven both as outrider, although i don’t know if you elect to have a free detachment fill instead

In the OP he says he has a single detachment allowed.
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PostSubject: Re: Terrible idea - stupid or viable?   Thu Nov 22 2018, 15:53

Oh, yeah so then to your original question: no you cannot spam beasts unfortunately

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PostSubject: Re: Terrible idea - stupid or viable?   Thu Nov 22 2018, 16:01

I forgot about the damn rule of 3. Nuts.
But Beast Spam is still doable in one detachment, as they don't use slots if you Beastmasters, right?

Now.....what to build a load of Razorwing Flocks from......


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PostSubject: Re: Terrible idea - stupid or viable?   Thu Nov 22 2018, 16:25

Well... if its under 2k its Ro2, ask the TO what they are doing to make sure.

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PostSubject: Re: Terrible idea - stupid or viable?   Thu Nov 22 2018, 17:23

Hmm.....

Thanks for the help all.
I may have to run a test.
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