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PostSubject: Which list to use? Or should I scrap both?   Which list to use? Or should I scrap both? I_icon_minitimeTue Sep 25 2018, 10:58

Ok, first time post for me. So, if I make a mistake let me know so I don't make it next time. I have 2 lists to post here. The Meta I play in is, mostly local players, but we use competitive ITC rules. Problem is they have decided to drop from 2k lists to 1500 "to reduce the soup lists". That said, I haven't run a Ynnari soup list yet, but figured I would try it(muhaha). The first list is soup and mixed craftworld and Ynnari/DE, but second list is not soup just Ynnari/DE. My thought is to get everything in 7" as fast as possible. Then let Soulburst do the rest. Of course the first list has some extra psyker power (doom/jinx)to help take down the knights that always show up at my meta. However I think second list without the extra psykers may actually handle that better. If you think its all crap and no way I will get in close enough fast enough let me know. I also summarized the shooting weapons after each list. Do you think its over kill with blasters? Should I save some Blaster points and field more units? What are my chances of tabling 1500 point non-knight armies? Any other critiques and comments would be appreciated.

List 1
++ Supreme Command Detachment +1CP
Craftworld Attribute: Alaitoc: Fieldcraft
+ HQ +
1×Farseer Skyrunner Doom, Executioner, Shuriken Pistol, Twin Shuriken Catapult, Witchblade

1×Warlock Skyrunner Enhance/Drain, Shuriken Pistol, Twin Shuriken Catapult, Witchblade

1×Warlock Skyrunner Protect/Jinx, Shuriken Pistol, Twin Shuriken Catapult, Witchblade

++ Battalion Detachment +5CP
(Ynnari)
Detachment Attribute: None (Mixed Detachment)
+ HQ +
1×Archon Blaster, Venom Blade

1×Yvraine  Ancestors' Grace, Word of the Phoenix

+ Troops +
5×Kabalite Warriors
. 3x Kabalite Warrior
. Kabalite Warrior with special weapon: Blaster
. Sybarite: Blast Pistol

1×Kabalite Warriors
. 6x Kabalite Warrior
. Kabalite warrior with Heavy Weapon: Dark Lance
. Kabalite Warrior with special weapon: Blaster
. Kabalite Warrior with special weapon: Blaster
. Sybarite: Blast Pistol

+ Fast Attack +

3×Scourges
. Scourge with Special / Heavy weapon: Haywire blaster
. Scourge with Special / Heavy weapon: Haywire blaster
. Scourge with Special / Heavy weapon: Haywire blaster
. Scourge with Special / Heavy weapon: Haywire blaster
. Solarite: Blast Pistol

1×Reavers
. Arena Champion Splinter Riffle
. 3x Reaver Splinter Riffle
. Reaver with special weapon (up to 1 for 3 models): Blaster, Grav-Talon
. Reaver with special weapon (up to 1 for 3 models): Blaster

+ Dedicated Transport +

3x Raider  Disintegrator cannon

++ Total: [71 PL, 1500pts] ++

Created with BattleScribe (https://battlescribe.net)
8 BP
10 BL
1 DL
3 DisCanon
12 HWB
3 Twin Shir Canon
3 Shir Pistol
25 SR

List 2
++ Battalion Detachment +5CP
(Aeldari - Ynnari)
Detachment Attribute: None (Mixed Detachment)
Fixed Combat Drug Selections

+ HQ +
1× Archon  Blaster, Venom Blade

1x Yvraine Tenacious Survivor, Ancestors' Grace, Word of the Phoenix, Ynnari Warlord

+ Troops +

5×Kabalite Warriors
. 3x Kabalite Warrior
. Kabalite Warrior with special weapon: Blaster
. Sybarite: Splinter Rifle

+ Elites +

3×Kabalite Trueborn (Index)
. Dracon: Splinter Rifle
. Kabalite Trueborn with Special Weapon: Blaster
. Kabalite Trueborn with Special Weapon: Blaster
. Kabalite Trueborn with Special Weapon: Blaster
. Kabalite Trueborn with Special Weapon: Blaster

+ Fast Attack +

Reavers Arena Champion, 2x Grav-Talon,
5x Reaver (Hypex)

2×Scourges
. Scourge with Special / Heavy weapon: Haywire blaster
. Scourge with Special / Heavy weapon: Haywire blaster
. Scourge with Special / Heavy weapon: Haywire blaster
. Scourge with Special / Heavy weapon: Haywire blaster
. Solarite: Shardcarbine

+ Dedicated Transport +

3×Raider  Disintegrator cannon

2× Venom Splinter Cannon, Twin splinter rifle

++ Total: [75 PL, 1499pts] ++

Created with BattleScribe (https://battlescribe.net)
18 BL
3 DisCanon
8 HWB
2 Splinter Canon
2 Twin Splinter Rifle
2 Shardcabine
26 Splinter Rifle
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PostSubject: Re: Which list to use? Or should I scrap both?   Which list to use? Or should I scrap both? I_icon_minitimeWed Sep 26 2018, 01:02

I'm going to assume that you don't own any ravagers and hence why there are none in either list (certainly should be on your "next to purchase" choice)

you will definitely struggle a bit against horde armies (but we generally do).

Depending on your meta, you could swap out haywire blasters for shredders on one of your scourge squads. But you already said that you face a fair amount of knights, so haywire may be the better choice.

You could therefore give one or two of your trueborn squads from the second list shredders. That would surprise the heck out of your opponent when they pop up either via webway portal or via screaming jets in one of your raiders (that actually sounds deliciously evil to me).

A big help to your first list would be a squad of Dark Reapers to deploy near Yvraine.
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PostSubject: Re: Which list to use? Or should I scrap both?   Which list to use? Or should I scrap both? I_icon_minitimeWed Sep 26 2018, 01:33

I do own 3 ravager. But pulled them from the list as they don't benefit from Soul Burst. I agree with possibly switching 1-2 units to shredders for infantry heavy armies. The dark reapers wont do me any good because they cant be in the detachment with yvraine. Again they would not benefit from Soul Burst. Unless I misunderstand the big FAQ.
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PostSubject: Re: Which list to use? Or should I scrap both?   Which list to use? Or should I scrap both? I_icon_minitimeFri Sep 28 2018, 21:49

The thing with soulburst and drukhari is that you cant soulburst while being in a vehicle. So suddenly only your scourges can soulburst. if the trueborn leave their vehicle they will be dead the turn after.

Reapers can be in a patrol detachment with yvraine and any craftworld troop.

Also mind that the blaseter venom blade archon is not possible since when you take index options you gotta stick to them and in the index there is no venom blade!
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