HomeDark Eldar WikiDark Eldar ResourcesNull CityFAQUsergroupsRegisterLog in

Share | 
 

 Kabal of the Last Hatred

Go down 
AuthorMessage
DrunkinChaps44
Slave
avatar

Posts : 4
Join date : 2018-08-21

PostSubject: Kabal of the Last Hatred   Tue Aug 21 2018, 04:46

Hello fellow Commorrites,

I'm considering starting a Dark Eldar army. My first experience with 40K was probably 15 years ago when I started a small DE force with my Dad. I was really young at the time and my painting was horrendous. None-the-less, I really liked Warhammer and kept an eye on it from afar. Now all these years later, I would like to finish the job and do it properly. My original color scheme back in the day, was purple and black based on the cover artwork of the codex. I really like the dark purple color scheme and I think it fits well with a dark elf style army. This has led me to the Kabal of the Last Hatred (LH). While mentally planning out the look and feel of the army that I want to create, I have been going back and forth on a few issues that I would like to pose to all of you. I am colorblind, particularly with dark blues and purples, so it can be difficult to look at pictures for inspiration as the colors don't really standout all that well to me. Without further ado, here we go:

1) When painting armor, such as that on the Kabalite Warriors, should I base the whole miniature in the trademark dark purple of the LH? Or should I base it black, and paint the purple onto just the plated sections that pop out? It appears on the LH color scheme picture that the feet and "undergarments" are all black. I can't really tell what other people have used on the internet as the dark colors don't stand out to me.

2) Should I use the same color scheme on all the vehicles as well? I can see it getting pretty bland if everything looks the exact same, but I also want the army to look cohesive as well. I was thinking about tweaking the formula a bit for the vehicles to make the riders and troops stand out a little more. Judging by the internet, it looks like most people just stick with the exact scheme throughout so maybe I am overthinking this one a little bit.

3) According to lore, the Kabals, Cults and Covens are all separate entities that occasionally work together for payment or mutual benefit. With that in mind, should I use a different color scheme on my cult and coven figures to keep it in line with fluff? I really get into the thematic flavor of the game, so I am seriously considering doing so. That being said, I don't see many people on the internet doing this and possibly for good reason. A uniform army does look very sharp on the table. So what do you think? Is it worth it? If yes, what cults or covens would likely work with the LH? What cults or coven color schemes would compliment that of the LH?

4) I know Dark Eldar transfer sheets are out there, but I don't see the listed for any particular kit. Does GW no longer offer these? That would be a real shame as there is no way in hell I am going to try freehanding the symbols. As a side note, I really like the symbol of the Kabal of the Last Hatred.

Well I know I threw a lot of questions out there, but if any kind (ahem wicked) souls could answer any or all of them, I would be very grateful.

Best regards,

DC
Back to top Go down
yellabelly
Kabalite Warrior
avatar

Posts : 238
Join date : 2017-11-16

PostSubject: Re: Kabal of the Last Hatred   Tue Aug 21 2018, 08:32

1) If you wanted the suits beneath the armour plates to be black, I'd probably use the base purple colour on the armour plates and work it up from there. I always use washes which darkens it off another shade too.

2) If you use the same colours on your vehicles, it will still have to be very different in layout due to the model being completely different. It doesn't (imo) look bland, it looks cohesive.

3) If your aiming for Kabal of the Last Hatred and want to get into the fluff, I'd suggest picking out a Cult and a Coven from the books and painting those in that scheme. Then it's all done to proper schemes from the books. However, you can paint them however you like and create your own fluff to justify it if you wish.

4) Transfers come in a lot of the vehicle and starter boxes etc. I've never looked but sure there will be plenty available on eBay.

As a side note - I can understand why you might want a fluff approved kabal. But if I were in your position, I'd probably choose my own colour scheme and create my own kabal, working with colours I can see more clearly. But I always do this with armies anyway, as I like my stuff to be a bit unique. Just seems like you may be making life harder for yourself than it needs to be, but obviously only you know how much of a hindrance your colour blindness is.

Whatever you do, good luck with the project and be sure to post your work in the project logs section

_________________
Do you fight for the Dark Gods? The Drukhari gave birth to one of them. By partying.
Back to top Go down
withershadow
Wych
avatar

Posts : 549
Join date : 2018-04-02

PostSubject: Re: Kabal of the Last Hatred   Tue Aug 21 2018, 15:15

I’d say prime incubus darkness, give it a purple wash, and then edge highlight with a vivid purple.
Back to top Go down
WhatAHowl
Slave
avatar

Posts : 23
Join date : 2018-06-13

PostSubject: Re: Kabal of the Last Hatred   Tue Aug 21 2018, 15:23

On the topic of painting Kabal/Covens/Cults in the same colours, you could try colour swaps. For example, if your Kabal was purple with a blue spot colour (like the Kabal of the Last Hatred), you could try a Cult/Coven with blue and purple as a spot colour. That way they look different, but also tie into each other.
Alternatively, it's perfectly fluffy to say that your Kabal has paid the Coven/Cult well as a form of sponsorship, and so they wear his/her Kabal's colours.

_________________
...believe me, I am still alive.
I feel fantastic, and I'm still alive.
I'm doing science, and I'm still alive.
And when you're dying, I will be still alive.
And when you're dead, I will be still alive.


- Overheard muttering in the regeneration chambers of the Coven of the Gift Revealed
Back to top Go down
DrunkinChaps44
Slave
avatar

Posts : 4
Join date : 2018-08-21

PostSubject: Re: Kabal of the Last Hatred   Tue Aug 21 2018, 17:32

Thanks for the help. I would like to try basing them in a black purple mix to give the dark foundation. Then I will layer back up with the purple by itself on the raised armor sections. I usually wash all my models for the shading effect but I question how much shading it would provide on a dark color scheme. I think layering will probably accomplish the shade effect by itself. I of course plan on experiementing before settling on a formula so thanks for the suggestions.

What color is Incubi Darkness? It looks like a really dark greenish gray to me but GW lists it as a purple paint on their website.
Back to top Go down
WhatAHowl
Slave
avatar

Posts : 23
Join date : 2018-06-13

PostSubject: Re: Kabal of the Last Hatred   Tue Aug 21 2018, 22:49

I don't own Incubi Darkness but I'm fairly sure it is a very dark green, certainly not a purple.
You could experiment with layering and THEN a shade of Druchii Violet perhaps, might help to draw the purple layers together. After that you could do one final highlight to make the edges pop.

_________________
...believe me, I am still alive.
I feel fantastic, and I'm still alive.
I'm doing science, and I'm still alive.
And when you're dying, I will be still alive.
And when you're dead, I will be still alive.


- Overheard muttering in the regeneration chambers of the Coven of the Gift Revealed
Back to top Go down
DrunkinChaps44
Slave
avatar

Posts : 4
Join date : 2018-08-21

PostSubject: Re: Kabal of the Last Hatred   Wed Aug 22 2018, 18:06

I think that is going to be my first approach. It's probably the most straight forward technique to try out.
Back to top Go down
DrunkinChaps44
Slave
avatar

Posts : 4
Join date : 2018-08-21

PostSubject: Re: Kabal of the Last Hatred   Fri Aug 24 2018, 03:23

What base do you think would compliment the Kabal of the Last Hatred color scheme? I was thinking of possibly going for a Martian soil type to give a red contrast that might make the models pop.
Back to top Go down
withershadow
Wych
avatar

Posts : 549
Join date : 2018-04-02

PostSubject: Re: Kabal of the Last Hatred   Sat Sep 08 2018, 20:20

It's a dark green but has a lot of blue in it, so it would create natural shading, while still allowing the layered purple to be a bit brighter than it would be on a completely black background. I find it a better base color for blues and greens than just straight black.
Back to top Go down
Sponsored content




PostSubject: Re: Kabal of the Last Hatred   

Back to top Go down
 
Kabal of the Last Hatred
Back to top 
Page 1 of 1

Permissions in this forum:You cannot reply to topics in this forum
THE DARK CITY :: 

GENERAL DRUKHARI DISCUSSION

 :: Drukhari Discussion
-
Jump to: