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Irjarrad
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PostSubject: First ever list   First ever list I_icon_minitimeMon Aug 20 2018, 01:19

Hi I am brand new and would like some feedback on the below list. It is mainly made up of what I have. I don’t have anything not in the list but looking for help to expand before buying more models. Wanting for fun but also the odd match play.
1500 point list
Black heart battalion
Archon - blaster, huskblade x2
Unit - sybarite blast pistol, warrior shredder, 6 warriors
2 x Unit - sybarite blast pistol, warrior shredder, 3 warriors
2x Raider with dissy

Red Grief Battalion
Succubus - archite glaive and triptych whip
Succubus - archite glaive and blast pistol
3 x Wych unit - hekatrix with blast pistol 4x Wych
3x venom with cannons
Reaver unit - arena champ standard, 8 standard bikes 2 x blaster 1 x heat lance

Also unsure how these guys fit in with detachments etc (can they go in either detachment?)
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PostSubject: Re: First ever list   First ever list I_icon_minitimeSun Aug 26 2018, 15:21

Hello!

Your army lacks anti-armour, aslo what your warlord trait and relic?

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1500 point list
Black heart battalion
Archon - blaster, huskblade x2
Unit - sybarite blast pistol, warrior shredder, 6 warriors
2 x Unit - sybarite blast pistol, warrior shredder, 3 warriors
2x Raider with dissy


1. Archons are fine.

2. Get rid of the blast pistol and exchange your shredders for blasters. Unless your going be 8 inches away from a enemy (which Kabalite hate!) then don't bother with the blast pistols.

3. Raiders??(see note below)

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Red Grief Battalion
Succubus - archite glaive and triptych whip
Succubus - archite glaive and blast pistol
3 x Wych unit - hekatrix with blast pistol 4x Wych
3x venom with cannons
Reaver unit - arena champ standard, 8 standard bikes 2 x blaster 1 x heat lance


1. Succubus - here where you want the a Blood glaive relic on one of these and a second blast pistol.

2. Wyches - Add a Shardnet implar to tie up units. They have the no escape rule, so if they try and run off they'll roll a D3 while you roll a D6.

3. With the reavers keep the bare bones. Reason being is that you will be using them as a throw away unit to tie up things and to be a distraction onm first turn due to the advance and charge Red Grief. This will stop you firing, however you'll only get one shot and for 17 points for blaster, it can be used in your Kabalite. Also would add grav-talons to add MW on charge.

4. Drugs. Remember your wyches are drugged up units which give them benefits. Personally would give the drugs in this order:

Reavers: +1 Toughness
Wyches: +1 Attack
Wyches: What ever is left
Wyches: What ever is left
Succubus: +1 Strength (On the one that has the blood glaive)
Succubus: +1 WS (Archite glaive gives -1 to hit)

The reason is the rules states you MUST take all drugs before you can freely select one.  

Note: I would personally switch the raiders and venoms around. So the kabalite warrios in the venoms and wyches in raider with Succubus. Drive up the threat to them and then charge the raider to soak while the wyches and sccubus pops out and murder straight after.

The venoms will add value to your kabalite warriors as they are more valuable with their blasters. -1 hit and 5++ is something not to scoff at.

If you are looking for anti-tank weapons, slap on some Ravagers into the Kabal Battlation and keep one of your archons bare bones for the re-rolls.


Here a list that I would run:

Kabal of the Flayed Skull Battalion:

1x Archon: Blaster, Huskblade 93pts
1x Archon: Venom Blade 72 pts

1x 5 Kabalite Warriors: Blaster 47 pts
1x 5 Kabalite Warriors: Blaster 47 pts
1x 5 Kabalite Warriors: Blaster 47 pts

1x Ravager: 1x DL  2x Dissi 130 pts
1x Ravager: 1x DL  2x Dissi 130 pts

1x Razorwing Fighter 135 pts

3x Venoms 65 pts each

Red Grief Battalion:

1x Succubus: Blood Glaive, Blast Pistol 60pts
1x Succubus: Archite Glaice, Splinter Pistol 50 pts

2x 5 Wyches: Shardnet & Impaler 45 pts each
1x 8 Wyches: Shardnet & Impaler 69 pts

8x Reavers: 3x Grav-talons 174 pts

2x Raiders: Dissi 80 pts each

Total: 1499
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PostSubject: Re: First ever list   First ever list I_icon_minitimeSun Aug 26 2018, 23:09

Thanks for your help on this. I have taken the below ad vice
switch raiders and venoms.
Bare bones the reavers (grab talons we’re already on i need to format my list better next time)
Add Shardnet and impalers

I am doing some practice runs shortly so will play with the rest because my friend is great with allowing proxy’s.

I have left black heart for vect and labyrinthine cunning and will run the helm of spite and triptych whip as artifacts though. If I don’t find myself up against many psykers I will change the helm to djinn blade as I really like this!
I do think my next investment needs to be voidraven or another ravager though.
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