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Mikoneo
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PostSubject: 1500 list feedback   1500 list feedback I_icon_minitimeSat Aug 18 2018, 22:40

Looking for some feedback on a 1500 un planning to use for a game against a friend (wych weapon choices are fixed to keep it wysiwyg)


++ Air Wing Detachment +1CP (Aeldari - Drukhari) ++

+ No Force Org Slot +

Detachment Attribute: Kabal of the Black Heart

+ Flyer +

Razorwing Jetfighter: Splinter Cannon
. 2 Dark Lances: 2x Dark Lance

Razorwing Jetfighter: Splinter Cannon
. 2 Disintegrator Cannons: 2x Disintegrator cannon

Voidraven: Two void lances, Voidraven Missiles

++ Battalion Detachment +5CP (Aeldari - Drukhari) ++

+ No Force Org Slot +

Alliance of Agony (1 CP)

Detachment Attribute: Kabal of the Obsidian Rose

Prizes from the Dark City (1 Relic)

+ HQ +

Archon: Blast Pistol, Deathly Perfectionist, Huskblade, The Armor of Misery, Warlord (Archon)

Archon: Huskblade, Splinter pistol

+ Troops +

Kabalite Warriors
. 6x Kabalite Warrior
. Kabalite warrior with Heavy Weapon: Splinter Cannon
. Kabalite Warrior with special weapon: Shredder
. Kabalite Warrior with special weapon: Shredder
. Sybarite: Splinter Rifle

Kabalite Warriors
. 3x Kabalite Warrior
. Kabalite Warrior with special weapon: Blaster
. Sybarite: Splinter Rifle

Kabalite Warriors
. 3x Kabalite Warrior
. Kabalite Warrior with special weapon: Blaster
. Sybarite: Splinter Rifle

+ Dedicated Transport +

Raider: Disintegrator cannon, Splinter Racks

Raider: Disintegrator cannon

Venom: Splinter Cannon, Splinter Cannon

Venom: Splinter Cannon, Splinter Cannon

++ Outrider Detachment +1CP (Aeldari - Drukhari) ++

+ No Force Org Slot +

Detachment Attribute: Cult of the Red Grief

Fixed Combat Drug Selections

+ HQ +

Succubus: Adrenalight (Combat Drug), Archite Glaive, Blast Pistol, Hyper-swift Reflexes, The Blood Glaive

+ Troops +

Wyches: Grave Lotus (Combat Drug)
. Hekatrix: Blast Pistol, Power sword
. 6x Wych
. Wych with Wych Weapon: Hydra gauntlets
. Wych with Wych Weapon: Razorflails
. Wych with Wych Weapon: Shardnet and impaler

+ Fast Attack +

Reavers: Arena Champion, Hypex (Combat Drug), 2x Reaver

Reavers: Arena Champion, Painbringer (Combat Drug), 2x Reaver

Scourges
. Scourge with Special / Heavy weapon: Haywire blaster
. Scourge with Special / Heavy weapon: Haywire blaster
. Scourge with Special / Heavy weapon: Haywire blaster
. Scourge with Special / Heavy weapon: Haywire blaster
. Solarite: Shardcarbine

++ Total: [78 PL, 1500pts] ++

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PostSubject: Re: 1500 list feedback   1500 list feedback I_icon_minitimeSun Aug 19 2018, 00:03

@Mikoneo wrote:
Razorwing Jetfighter: Splinter Cannon
. 2 Dark Lances: 2x Dark Lance

Razorwing Jetfighter: Splinter Cannon
. 2 Disintegrator Cannons: 2x Disintegrator cannon

Voidraven: Two void lances, Voidraven Missiles
I generally find the Voidraven is of questionable value for the upgrade cost vs. a Dissie Razorwing and tend to favor them.

@Mikoneo wrote:
Archon: Blast Pistol, Deathly Perfectionist, Huskblade, The Armor of Misery, Warlord (Archon)

Archon: Huskblade, Splinter pistol
Fine

@Mikoneo wrote:
Kabalite Warriors
. 6x Kabalite Warrior
. Kabalite warrior with Heavy Weapon: Splinter Cannon
. Kabalite Warrior with special weapon: Shredder
. Kabalite Warrior with special weapon: Shredder
. Sybarite: Splinter Rifle

Kabalite Warriors
. 3x Kabalite Warrior
. Kabalite Warrior with special weapon: Blaster
. Sybarite: Splinter Rifle

Kabalite Warriors
. 3x Kabalite Warrior
. Kabalite Warrior with special weapon: Blaster
. Sybarite: Splinter Rifle
This is all fine.

@Mikoneo wrote:
Raider: Disintegrator cannon, Splinter Racks

Raider: Disintegrator cannon

Venom: Splinter Cannon, Splinter Cannon

Venom: Splinter Cannon, Splinter Cannon
My initial response to this was 'Fine' but looking at the rest of the list I have to come back to this.
You've got your ten man squad w. Shredders that I'm guessing is going in with the Raider and the splinter racks (though maybe you're doubling up the Blaster squads in there - but then the Shredder squad is footslogging or the Wyches are, which seems...ehh)
Two Blaster squads in the Venom.
10 man Wych squad in the non splinter rack Raider.
That means your HQs are footslogging... pale ?
The only other idea I have is you're going to Webway the Wyches with the Succubus?
Something feels off about your setup as your army is either footslogging or maybe you should clarify your deployment plan. If you're not DSing the Wyches (and I prefer not to DS Wyches myself, as the Raider assaulting in first is kind of a core battle strat for Wyches in my opinion) then your list needs major work to get your HQs up into the scrum functionally since the Succubus really wants and needs to be there, and both the Archons are tooled for assault also.

@Mikoneo wrote:
Succubus: Adrenalight (Combat Drug), Archite Glaive, Blast Pistol, Hyper-swift Reflexes, The Blood Glaive
Almost exactly how I run my Succubus, hard to go wrong with a Blood Glaive

@Mikoneo wrote:
Wyches: Grave Lotus (Combat Drug)
. Hekatrix: Blast Pistol, Power sword
. 6x Wych
. Wych with Wych Weapon: Hydra gauntlets
. Wych with Wych Weapon: Razorflails
. Wych with Wych Weapon: Shardnet and impaler
Fine - if you drop one to get the Succubus into the Raider I advocate dropping the Razorflail.

@Mikoneo wrote:
Reavers: Arena Champion, Hypex (Combat Drug), 2x Reaver

Reavers: Arena Champion, Painbringer (Combat Drug), 2x Reaver
So basically these are just tie-up distraction tools? Maybe using them in lieu of a Raider for DSing Wyches? They're cheap at least.

@Mikoneo wrote:
Scourges
. Scourge with Special / Heavy weapon: Haywire blaster
. Scourge with Special / Heavy weapon: Haywire blaster
. Scourge with Special / Heavy weapon: Haywire blaster
. Scourge with Special / Heavy weapon: Haywire blaster
. Solarite: Shardcarbine
Fine.

Most of my core issue is your transport setup as discussed, especially since all your stranded HQs are assault oriented. If you're DSing the Wyches and putting two Archons in a Raider or one each in an otherwise empty Venom it's fine-ish - I tend to aim for raider rush builds so my knee jerk reaction is just get more boats and put people in them.
I'd also note for a firepower consideration, Ravagers are more bang for less bucks than the flyer options.

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PostSubject: Re: 1500 list feedback   1500 list feedback I_icon_minitimeSun Aug 19 2018, 00:14

The flyers are there as I've only just got the Voidraven to complete a flyer wing, so am wanting to trial it out. The transports I was planning to put the 10 kabalites in the splinter racked raider, and the wyches in the other raider (going to 9 wyches is possible but the loss of 2 wych weapons to do so feels heavy), 2 venoms for the blaster squads. I was personally toying with the idea of using wwp to deep strike the succubus and warlord archon, mainly just to see how it would work out with putting them in once wyches and reavers have engaged and making use of rerolls to charge. Not the best move strategically but it's something I've been wanting to try
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