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PostSubject: 1600 list for a newbie   1600 list for a newbie I_icon_minitimeFri Aug 17 2018, 16:58

Hi! So here's my current list idea:
++ Battalion Detachment +5CP (Aeldari - Drukhari) [20 PL, 403pts] ++

+ No Force Org Slot +

Detachment Attribute: Cult of the Cursed Blade

Fixed Combat Drug Selections

+ HQ +

Succubus [4 PL, 50pts]: Archite Glaive, Grave Lotus (Combat Drug), Splinter pistol

Succubus [4 PL, 50pts]: Archite Glaive, Hypex (Combat Drug), Splinter pistol, The Helm of Spite

+ Troops +

Wyches [4 PL, 102pts]: Adrenalight (Combat Drug)
. Hekatrix: Blast Pistol, Hekatarii blade
. 6x Wych
. Wych with Wych Weapon: Hydra gauntlets
. Wych with Wych Weapon: Hydra gauntlets
. Wych with Wych Weapon: Hydra gauntlets

Wyches [4 PL, 109pts]: Painbringer (Combat Drug)
. Hekatrix: Blast Pistol, Power sword
. 6x Wych
. Wych with Wych Weapon: Shardnet and impaler
. Wych with Wych Weapon: Shardnet and impaler
. Wych with Wych Weapon: Shardnet and impaler

Wyches [4 PL, 92pts]: Serpentin (Combat Drug)
. Hekatrix: Hekatarii blade, Splinter pistol
. 6x Wych
. Wych with Wych Weapon: Razorflails
. Wych with Wych Weapon: Razorflails
. Wych with Wych Weapon: Razorflails

++ Battalion Detachment +5CP (Aeldari - Drukhari) [39 PL, 742pts] ++

+ No Force Org Slot +

Detachment Attribute: Kabal of the Flayed Skull

+ HQ +

Archon [4 PL, 92pts]: Blaster, Phantasm Grenade Launcher, Venom Blade

Archon [4 PL, 92pts]: Ancient Evil, Blaster, Phantasm Grenade Launcher, Venom Blade, Warlord (Archon)

+ Troops +

Kabalite Warriors [2 PL, 47pts]
. 3x Kabalite Warrior
. Kabalite Warrior with special weapon: Blaster
. Sybarite: Splinter Rifle

Kabalite Warriors [2 PL, 47pts]
. 3x Kabalite Warrior
. Kabalite Warrior with special weapon: Blaster
. Sybarite: Splinter Rifle

Kabalite Warriors [2 PL, 47pts]
. 3x Kabalite Warrior
. Kabalite Warrior with special weapon: Blaster
. Sybarite: Splinter Rifle

+ Dedicated Transport +

Raider [5 PL, 91pts]: Disintegrator cannon, Shock Prow, Splinter Racks

Raider [5 PL, 83pts]: Disintegrator cannon, Grisly Trophies, Shock Prow

Raider [5 PL, 81pts]: Disintegrator cannon, Shock Prow

Raider [5 PL, 81pts]: Disintegrator cannon, Shock Prow

Raider [5 PL, 81pts]: Disintegrator cannon, Shock Prow

++ Air Wing Detachment +1CP (Aeldari - Drukhari) [25 PL, 455pts] ++

+ No Force Org Slot +

Detachment Attribute: Kabal of the Flayed Skull

+ Flyer +

Razorwing Jetfighter [8 PL, 145pts]: Splinter Cannon
. 2 Disintegrator Cannons: 2x Disintegrator cannon

Razorwing Jetfighter [8 PL, 145pts]: Splinter Cannon
. 2 Disintegrator Cannons: 2x Disintegrator cannon

Voidraven [9 PL, 165pts]: Two dark scythes, Voidraven Missiles

++ Total: [84 PL, 1600pts] ++
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PostSubject: Re: 1600 list for a newbie   1600 list for a newbie I_icon_minitimeFri Aug 17 2018, 19:39

souffle wrote:
Detachment Attribute: Cult of the Cursed Blade
I'm of the opinion that this is the least competitive of the Cult options.

souffle wrote:
Succubus [4 PL, 50pts]: Archite Glaive, Grave Lotus (Combat Drug), Splinter pistol

Succubus [4 PL, 50pts]: Archite Glaive, Hypex (Combat Drug), Splinter pistol, The Helm of Spite
This looks good.

souffle wrote:
Wyches [4 PL, 102pts]: Adrenalight (Combat Drug)
. Hekatrix: Blast Pistol, Hekatarii blade
. 6x Wych
. Wych with Wych Weapon: Hydra gauntlets
. Wych with Wych Weapon: Hydra gauntlets
. Wych with Wych Weapon: Hydra gauntlets

Wyches [4 PL, 109pts]: Painbringer (Combat Drug)
. Hekatrix: Blast Pistol, Power sword
. 6x Wych
. Wych with Wych Weapon: Shardnet and impaler
. Wych with Wych Weapon: Shardnet and impaler
. Wych with Wych Weapon: Shardnet and impaler

Wyches [4 PL, 92pts]: Serpentin (Combat Drug)
. Hekatrix: Hekatarii blade, Splinter pistol
. 6x Wych
. Wych with Wych Weapon: Razorflails
. Wych with Wych Weapon: Razorflails
. Wych with Wych Weapon: Razorflails
I don't find a lot of value in Razorflails paired with Serpentin - kind of defeats half the purpose for the upgrade, yeah?
Frankly I'd tend not to bother with Razorflails at all (usually you're near a Succubus anyway...) and would just take Hydra Gauntlets, but if I went Razorflails I'd combo it with a different drug.

Also, with 3 10 man squads of Wyches, 2 5 man squads of Warriors, 2 Succubi and 2 Archons - where are people going? The Succubi will want to travel up with the Wyches, but it feels like you're going to be tight on space unless you're lobbing some Warriors up into assault range also. I'd tend to take one less Wych in two squads and float in a Succubus myself. The Shardnet squad in particular will function basically just as well with 9 bodies and 2 nets compared to 10 and 3.

souffle wrote:
Archon [4 PL, 92pts]: Blaster, Phantasm Grenade Launcher, Venom Blade

Archon [4 PL, 92pts]: Ancient Evil, Blaster, Phantasm Grenade Launcher, Venom Blade, Warlord (Archon)
Fine.

souffle wrote:
Kabalite Warriors [2 PL, 47pts]
. 3x Kabalite Warrior
. Kabalite Warrior with special weapon: Blaster
. Sybarite: Splinter Rifle

Kabalite Warriors [2 PL, 47pts]
. 3x Kabalite Warrior
. Kabalite Warrior with special weapon: Blaster
. Sybarite: Splinter Rifle

Kabalite Warriors [2 PL, 47pts]
. 3x Kabalite Warrior
. Kabalite Warrior with special weapon: Blaster
. Sybarite: Splinter Rifle
This is all lovely.

souffle wrote:
Raider [5 PL, 91pts]: Disintegrator cannon, Shock Prow, Splinter Racks

Raider [5 PL, 83pts]: Disintegrator cannon, Grisly Trophies, Shock Prow

Raider [5 PL, 81pts]: Disintegrator cannon, Shock Prow

Raider [5 PL, 81pts]: Disintegrator cannon, Shock Prow

Raider [5 PL, 81pts]: Disintegrator cannon, Shock Prow
I question the point of paying for Splinter Racks, though I guess you can cram 2 squads in there and do okay - but, as mentioned above, I think you're really tight on your transports. As stands, the Archons want to move up board to use their Blasters, as you don't have any Ravagers for them to babysit. The Succubi also want to move up board to assault stuff. With the splinter racks in play you're basically obligated to double Warrior squad that Raider, meaning that both Archons and both Succubi are sharing a single Raider. So you'll have 3 raiders of Wyches, 1 Raider w. 2 Blasters and s.racks, and 1 Raider with 4 HQ options, 3 Blasters, your Warlord, and all your re-roll tech.

Which Raider do you think your opponent is going to shoot off the table round 1?

I'd tend to advocate for working in the Succubi to the Wych Raiders or getting an additional transport to travel some bodies separate.

souffle wrote:
++ Air Wing Detachment +1CP (Aeldari - Drukhari) [25 PL, 455pts] ++

+ No Force Org Slot +

Detachment Attribute: Kabal of the Flayed Skull

+ Flyer +

Razorwing Jetfighter [8 PL, 145pts]: Splinter Cannon
. 2 Disintegrator Cannons: 2x Disintegrator cannon

Razorwing Jetfighter [8 PL, 145pts]: Splinter Cannon
. 2 Disintegrator Cannons: 2x Disintegrator cannon

Voidraven [9 PL, 165pts]: Two dark scythes, Voidraven Missiles

++ Total: [84 PL, 1600pts] ++
I tend to advocate for the Razorwing over the Voidraven as far as functionality goes - though I'd also tend to advocate for Ravagers over either, as a point saving plan. This isn't a bad setup though, and it will get work done.

My thoughts,
Thor.

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