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PostSubject: PL scourges vs Mandrakes   Mon Jul 09 2018, 20:25

Going to a PL doubles with 55 PL per player

Like Scourges cause they are power level kings
Like mandrakes because they are good to

List is archon with 3 ravagers black heart disintegratoes
Succubus with 3 reaver squads blastees and upgrades
And then i can do 2 10 man mandrakes for 16PL
Or 2 10 man scourgss for 16 PL
Scourgss wojld probably go blasters

Both similar survivability though edge goes to mandrakes
Mandrakes better anti infanry but can harass big models
Scourges can go anti big models and harass infantry

Mandrakes way superior in combat. No questions

I think even regarding the point difference between the 2 mandrakes would be better but im not sure.
Anyone with an input on whether to go mandrakes or scourges?

Bonus points to whether i do warrior battalion no wych units for 5 cmd points. I thinm i should bug the warriors are throwaways at this point. Guess its between the usefulness of the reavers vs agents of vect spam since i can trigger labarithine cunnjng from both opponents using strats..

Probably warriors are bettef in that department




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PostSubject: Re: PL scourges vs Mandrakes   Mon Jul 09 2018, 20:41

haywire blaster scourges
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PostSubject: Re: PL scourges vs Mandrakes   Tue Jul 10 2018, 06:09

First strange question why do you want 2 squads of the same and not 1 squad of both?

Having said that, depending on the meta it feels like you are slightly light on anti tank, so scourges might be preferential.
While dissies are not bad, their favored target is heavy infantry or very light vehicles. If I read it correct that you now only have some blasters on your reavers i would suggest some more anti tank.
If you are scared that you will not have enough anti infantry you can take haywire instead of blasters, the bigger range makes them much more survivable in my experience, and haiwire is better against light infantry than blasters if you need to in a pinch.
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PostSubject: Re: PL scourges vs Mandrakes   Tue Jul 10 2018, 08:59

If you're playing PL I'd go for Scourges every day of the week as you're not paying for their upgrades. I'd also go three squads of 5 rather than 2 of 10, as you get 4 more special/heavy weapons.

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PostSubject: Re: PL scourges vs Mandrakes   Tue Jul 10 2018, 15:56

^^

Yeah, I second.

Bring Scourges with exactly the weapons you need them to have. Spare no expense!
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PostSubject: Re: PL scourges vs Mandrakes   Tue Jul 10 2018, 16:45

Well im not too worried about anti tank. Its a doubles 55 PL and my partner is going harlies who can spam fusion pistols for free. Plus in a power level game it tends to be the infantry squads with lots of upgrades like heavy and special weapons to be taken. I

List is black heart with cunning and living muse
This is whats locked in for sure
archon 4
Archon 4
Warriors 2
Warriors 2
Warriors 2
Ravager 7
Ravager 7
Ravager 7
That leaves me with 20 PL
Now i could go 10 scourges and ten mandrakes plus one 5 man squad of drakes
Or i could go 3 squads of scourges and another pl5 unit

I could go two blocks of scourges and 5 drakes
Could go 2 scourges and a razorwing with 2 random pl left
Just dont know if i need to commit to a bunch of scourges for anti tank when mandrakes can double dip in locking down vehicles. Both are pretty useful


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PostSubject: Re: PL scourges vs Mandrakes   Tue Jul 10 2018, 17:55

I've used Mandrakes to tie down vehicles before but it's not really my favorite thing to be doing with them.

Are the Kabalites all footslogging then ?
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PostSubject: Re: PL scourges vs Mandrakes   Tue Jul 10 2018, 21:18

I like the idea of making the KW squads of 10 with DL and blasters.

I would do 3 scourge, and then upgrade 2 of the KW squads accordingly. This gives you some more anti tank at range, and then you don't need transports to move them up. I suppose use the one left over PL to buy a Llahmean or a razorwing flock (neither will be much use to you, but may as well use up the PL)
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PostSubject: Re: PL scourges vs Mandrakes   Wed Jul 11 2018, 00:37

Couldnt do the flock because of matched play restrictions. 4 power level for 2 blasters and 2 lances isnt vad but the delivery system of those wouldnt be ideal.
Reavers are also very power level efficient with upgrades
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PostSubject: Re: PL scourges vs Mandrakes   Fri Jul 13 2018, 06:25

Do people take extra models in Scourge squads? Seems like having a few ablative wounds is useful.
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