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PostSubject: No Ynnari Codex   Fri Jun 01 2018, 16:58

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2018/06/01/codexes-kings-cawdors-and-more/

Not that it effects me in any way, as I have no intention of playing Ynnari. But the latest codex releases are Space Wolves and Orks, with a single sentence about there only being one more Xenos faction - Gene Stealer Cults.
Bad news for any Ynnari players and you have my sympathies.
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PostSubject: Re: No Ynnari Codex   Fri Jun 01 2018, 17:45

Meh. Ynnari need either a full rework or to be scrapped entirely at this point, anyway. I like the faction in principle but I'm actually kind of glad that they're not getting a Codex immediately.
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PostSubject: Re: No Ynnari Codex   Fri Jun 01 2018, 18:01

What would be in that Codex anyway? There's one set with 3 models for it. Other than that it relies on what's already in other Codex's. (Is "Codex's" the correct word here?) It would be 2 pages of unit stats, one page for faction rules that replace things like Power from Pain (which would probably just be a copy of what's in the Index), maybe some stratagems (that will mostly be copies of other factions' strategems)... I don't think I could come up with more than 10-15 pages, including an index. :/

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PostSubject: Re: No Ynnari Codex   Fri Jun 01 2018, 18:52

I'm sorry, I only see mention of the next 2 Codexes, not any mention of Ynnari.

Is it because they say there's "only one Xenos Codex left [Genestealers]" or is there something I'm missing?

I don't think that gives a really clear indication about anything that's happening with Ynnari, except that maybe they won't be getting a Codex.
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PostSubject: Re: No Ynnari Codex   Fri Jun 01 2018, 19:01

Erm.... It says there is only one Xenos codex left which is Gene Stealer Cults. I don't see how there can be any ambiguity around that statement. Ynnari are Xenos. Ynnari aren't genestealer Cults. It's not hard to calculate that means - yup you guessed it. No Ynnari codex.

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PostSubject: Re: No Ynnari Codex   Fri Jun 01 2018, 19:06

Everybody already agreed this meant there's not going to be an Ynnari Codex. I just wasn't surprised or sad about it, because like I said, what would be in it anyway?

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PostSubject: Re: No Ynnari Codex   Fri Jun 01 2018, 19:49

@Gelmir wrote:
Everybody already agreed this meant there's not going to be an Ynnari Codex. I just wasn't surprised or sad about it, because like I said, what would be in it anyway?

My money is on Ynnari popping up as a list in Chapter Approved 2018, along with the rumored SoB playtest rules. Either that, or they'll appear in a campaign book, as they did in the previous edition.
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PostSubject: Re: No Ynnari Codex   Fri Jun 01 2018, 23:47

No I think They'll probably get new units before they get a codex, just like I think we could very reasonably get that Vect/Dias sculpt this edition given that it's literally been built from the ground up for them to release models out of sync with codexes and have said as much numerous times. Were I to hazard a guess it would be November or later but certainly after the Year of Slaanesh kicks off which could well be july but I have no doubt is going to happen.
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PostSubject: Re: No Ynnari Codex   Sat Jun 02 2018, 02:10

We don't know what they plan after the codex blitz is over.
There are lots of options. Campaign books are one. Or books about unique army setups, with new faction rules or alternate build rules, but no full unit profiles. Or alternate play books like a full cities of death book.

Some sort of non-codex style book would fit ynnari better.

Do kinda hope they do an imperial agents/talons of the empire books so they can get Inquisitors, assassin's, sisters of silence etc all done up.
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PostSubject: Re: No Ynnari Codex   Sat Jun 02 2018, 06:36

why do 3 models deserve a codex? i could see maybe some faq updates to the xenos codex, but yannari got benefits with every one of the aledari codexs already
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PostSubject: Re: No Ynnari Codex   Sat Jun 02 2018, 20:16

IDK why this is surprising, they never said they would get one, their was never a codex for them in 7th, just like Imperial Agents, and Flesh Terrors, those 3 books where not codex's.


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PostSubject: Re: No Ynnari Codex   Sat Jun 02 2018, 21:03

I didn't play 7th or before, I kinda thought they'd get a book as they were an index entry just like dark eldar, craft worlds and Harlequins. I just shared it as there'd been discussion on Ynnari and that article confirmed no codex. I thought it'd be of interest.

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PostSubject: Re: No Ynnari Codex   Sun Jun 03 2018, 13:27

I think the problem is more to do with how if you run a ynnari deattachment now, it prevents you from accessing the generic aledari stratagems because of keyword shenanigans. So, you would have to take separate deattachments to access them and ynnari stuff doesn't work on them like soulburst... It's just clunky
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PostSubject: Re: No Ynnari Codex   Sun Jun 03 2018, 14:19

Yes, hopefully they will bring out a small update to Ynnari and fix it, even if its not a codex, they still could bring out a rules book for it. Just like in 7th they did for them.

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PostSubject: Re: No Ynnari Codex   Sun Jun 03 2018, 14:47

@amishprn86 wrote:
IDK why this is surprising, they never said they would get one, their was never a codex for them in 7th, just like Imperial Agents, and Flesh Terrors, those 3 books where not codex's.


Well, they only got released at the very tail-end of 7th edition. It's not a completely wild thought that they'll be getting fleshed out in more detail at some point during 8th, although doing so in a Campaign book probably is more likely than in a Codex.

There's a lot of room for the faction to expand, anyways.
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PostSubject: Re: No Ynnari Codex   Sun Jun 03 2018, 15:01

@Burnage wrote:
@amishprn86 wrote:
IDK why this is surprising, they never said they would get one, their was never a codex for them in 7th, just like Imperial Agents, and Flesh Terrors, those 3 books where not codex's.


Well, they only got released at the very tail-end of 7th edition. It's not a completely wild thought that they'll be getting fleshed out in more detail at some point during 8th, although doing so in a Campaign book probably is more likely than in a Codex.

There's a lot of room for the faction to expand, anyways.

Right thats what i mean, they might get rules, just not a codex. A codex has stratagems, traits, relics, etc.. a special book for a camping.

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PostSubject: Re: No Ynnari Codex   Thu Jun 07 2018, 07:26

The statement in the article really doesn't mean that there won't be a Ynnari Codex.

The article is just talking about this next set of codexes coming out, in step with the schedule they've established of announcing them in sets of 3. The sentence about "only one xenos faction left lurking in the shadows" could simply to the fact that the Genestealer cults are the only other xenos race that doesn't yet have an updated codex. "Only one left" out of the next set of three, or "only one left" to update. There are all kinds of ways to interpret it, and no way of knowing for certain what the author was really implying.

The only thing the article actually 100% confirms is that there won't be a Ynnari codex -- until after Space Wolves, Orcs, and Genestealer Cult books.

If the Ynnari do get a codex, it would have to come with new models in order for them to have enough content for a whole book. It would basically be introducing a new faction, something that would merit it's own announcement, and wouldn't really fit in the "set of 3 codex updates" schedule they have going on. But it totally makes sense that they'd want to update all the existing books before they debut a new one.

I think it's also worth noting that the original rumor that triggered all of this didn't mention "Ynnari" specifically, it was just that the Aeldari race is getting another codex by the end of the year. The general assumption is that it will be the Ynnari because they already have some models but no book, but it could be Exodites, Corsairs, or something else entirely.

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