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losio75
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PostSubject: 1500 cabal, coven and cult   Mon May 14 2018, 20:04

Any suggestions?

+ HQ +

Haemonculus: Ichor Injector, Stinger Pistol, The Helm of Spite, Venom Blade

Urien Rakarth

+ Troops +

Wracks
. Acothyst: Stinger Pistol, Venom Blade
. Wrack with special weapon (up to 1 for 5 models): Ossefactor
. 3x Wracks

Wracks
. Acothyst: Stinger Pistol, Venom Blade
. Wrack with special weapon (up to 1 for 5 models): Ossefactor
. 3x Wracks

Wracks
. Acothyst: Stinger Pistol, Venom Blade
. Wrack with special weapon (up to 1 for 5 models): Ossefactor
. 3x Wracks

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Talos
. Talos: Macro-Scalpel, Macro-Scalpel
. . Two Splinter Cannons: 2x Splinter Cannon

++ Battalion Detachment +5CP (Aeldari - Drukhari)

+ No Force Org Slot +

Detachment Attribute: Kabal of the Obsidian Rose

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Archon: Huskblade, Phantasm Grenade Launcher, Splinter pistol

Archon: Huskblade, Phantasm Grenade Launcher, Splinter pistol

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Kabalite Warriors
. 3x Kabalite Warrior
. Kabalite Warrior with special weapon: Shredder
. Sybarite: Phantasm Grenade Launcher, Splinter Rifle

Kabalite Warriors
. 3x Kabalite Warrior
. Kabalite Warrior with special weapon: Shredder
. Sybarite: Phantasm Grenade Launcher, Splinter Rifle

Kabalite Warriors
. 3x Kabalite Warrior
. Kabalite Warrior with special weapon: Shredder
. Sybarite: Phantasm Grenade Launcher, Splinter Rifle

+ Heavy Support +

Ravager: Chain Snares, Dark Lance, Dark Lance, Dark Lance, Phantasm Grenade Launcher, Shock Prow

+ Flyer +

Razorwing Jetfighter: Splinter Cannon
. 2 Dark Lances: 2x Dark Lance

+ Dedicated Transport +

Venom: Chain Snares, Splinter Cannon, Splinter Cannon

Venom: Chain Snares, Splinter Cannon, Splinter Cannon

Venom: Chain Snares, Splinter Cannon, Splinter Cannon

++ Battalion Detachment +5CP (Aeldari - Drukhari)

+ No Force Org Slot +

Detachment Attribute: Cult of the Cursed Blade

Fixed Combat Drug Selections

+ HQ +

Succubus: Archite Glaive, Splinter pistol

Succubus: Archite Glaive, Splinter pistol

+ Troops +

Wyches
. Hekatrix: Hekatarii blade, Splinter pistol
. 3x Wych
. Wych with Wych Weapon: Shardnet and impaler

Wyches
. Hekatrix: Hekatarii blade, Splinter pistol
. 3x Wych
. Wych with Wych Weapon: Shardnet and impaler

Wyches
. Hekatrix: Hekatarii blade, Splinter pistol
. 3x Wych
. Wych with Wych Weapon: Shardnet and impaler
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PostSubject: Re: 1500 cabal, coven and cult   Thu May 17 2018, 17:26

Excuse me, I'm new of drukhari army.. Can you give my any suggestions for this list ?thank you!
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PostSubject: Re: 1500 cabal, coven and cult   Thu May 17 2018, 20:36

Honestly I'd give your Haemonculus the Vexator Mask rather than the Helm of Spite. It's a great item to have when your Covens detachment inevitably becomes a huge brawl in the middle of the table. Blow a CP on the Prizes From The Dark City stratagem and put the helm on one of your Archons if you need it. If not then the Djin Blade might be a good idea. Also, ditching the Stinger Pistol and Ichor Injector for an Electrocorrosive Whip is probably a good plan.

Chain Snares, Shock Prows and Phantasm Grenade Launchers are kind of wasted on Ravagers who never really want to be within 18' of the enemy let alone in melee with them. Venoms aren't very good in melee either with their piddly two attacks so those Chain Snare points might be better used elsewhere in general.

I don't know that much about the cults since I don't play them but, as I understand it, the Hydra Gauntlets are better choices than the Shardnet/Impalers. Rerolls to wound and all that.

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PostSubject: Re: 1500 cabal, coven and cult   Thu May 17 2018, 20:54

Thank you very much for your help!
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PostSubject: Re: 1500 cabal, coven and cult   Thu May 17 2018, 21:42

Hydra gauntlets aren't better than hydra gauntlets anymore due to the special rule the shardnets have for helping the no escape rule work out. You want one shardnet per wych unit, but beyond that razorflail/ hydra gauntlet is a good choice

Really the whole issue with this list is you're trying to pack in 3 battalions and 1500pts which means taking lots of troops and characters to get you command points, but at the cost of your army having little punching power. You definetly need to drop at least one, probably two battalions to get more hitting power. Take more of the heavy hitters in your list-ravagers, razorwings and talos. If you actually want to fit all 3 of our subfactions in at 1500 raiding force is actually probably the way to go, you won't have nearly as many command points but you can actually balance things out much better without being forced to take so many troop units. Or if you want to drop down to kabalite battalion supported by an outrider cult or spearhead coven, that's very viable as well.

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PostSubject: Re: 1500 cabal, coven and cult   Thu May 17 2018, 21:59

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PostSubject: Re: 1500 cabal, coven and cult   Mon May 21 2018, 04:31

I would consider deciding for only one type of obesession, max 1, or if you have the 3, make sure on of the 3 is a spear head or something similar.
As Lord Asvaldir said, you need some punch in the army, consider getting a Voidravan or Razorwings, or maybe Ravagers with Dark Lances.
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PostSubject: Re: 1500 cabal, coven and cult   Mon May 21 2018, 07:07

So.. Only one? Neither 2? I've just considered that this list is too weak in fact.. In the end 3 battalion at 1500 are not the best choice. You'll create a list with only 1 obsession, so only cabaliti, cult or coven? I thought maybe a spearhead detachment with cabaliti and a battalion of cult with witches, ravers and hellions, with mandrake and scourges..
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PostSubject: Re: 1500 cabal, coven and cult   Mon May 21 2018, 10:41

Sticking to only 1 faction is massively limiting yourself. We're designed to mix and match, both with ourselves and the other Eldar factions.

Taking three battalions is a bit difficult to fit in sensibly at 1500 points, but multiple detachments with different obsessions is completely fine.
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PostSubject: Re: 1500 cabal, coven and cult   Mon May 21 2018, 12:52

Ok.. Than you! And sorry, for error I delete my old comments..
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