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PostSubject: Web way raiding party   Web way raiding party I_icon_minitimeWed Apr 18 2018, 13:38

What do you guys think?
I try not to use too many bikes because I only own 3 of them...


++ Battalion Detachment +5CP (Aeldari - Drukhari)++

+ No Force Org Slot +

Detachment Attribute: Kabal of the Flayed Skull

+ HQ +

Archon: Blast Pistol, Famed Savagery, Huskblade, Phantasm Grenade Launcher, The Djin Blade, Warlord (Archon)

Archon: Blaster, Huskblade, Phantasm Grenade Launcher

+ Troops +

3x
Kabalite Warriors
. 3x Kabalite Warrior
. Kabalite Warrior with special weapon: Blaster
. Sybarite: Agoniser, Blast Pistol, Phantasm Grenade Launcher

+ Dedicated Transport +

3x
Venom: Chain Snares, Grisly Trophies, Splinter Cannon, Splinter Cannon

++ Patrol Detachment (Aeldari - Drukhari) ++

+ No Force Org Slot +

Detachment Attribute: Prophets of Flesh

+ HQ +

Haemonculus: Electrocorrosive whip, Splinter Pistol

+ Troops +

Wracks
. Acothyst: Haemonculus tools
. 7x Wracks

+ Elites +

Grotesques
. Grotesque: Flesh Gauntlet, Monstrous cleaver
. Grotesque: Flesh Gauntlet, Monstrous cleaver
. Grotesque: Flesh Gauntlet, Monstrous cleaver
. Grotesque: Flesh Gauntlet, Monstrous cleaver

Grotesques
. Grotesque: Flesh Gauntlet, Monstrous cleaver
. Grotesque: Flesh Gauntlet, Monstrous cleaver
. Grotesque: Flesh Gauntlet, Monstrous cleaver
. Grotesque: Flesh Gauntlet, Monstrous cleaver

+ Dedicated Transport +

Raider: Chain Snares, Disintegrator cannon, Grisly Trophies, Phantasm Grenade Launcher, Shock Prow

Raider: Chain Snares, Disintegrator cannon, Grisly Trophies, Phantasm Grenade Launcher, Shock Prow

Raider: Chain Snares, Disintegrator cannon, Grisly Trophies, Phantasm Grenade Launcher, Shock Prow

++ Supreme Command Detachment +1CP (Aeldari - Drukhari) ++

+ No Force Org Slot +

Detachment Attribute: Cult of Strife

+ HQ +

Succubus: Agoniser, Archite Glaive

Succubus: Agoniser, Archite Glaive

Succubus: Agoniser, Archite Glaive

++ Total: 1500++
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PostSubject: Re: Web way raiding party   Web way raiding party I_icon_minitimeWed Apr 18 2018, 17:54

Cool list!

One idea I'd consider is to drop the Patrol for a Vanguard detachment. You just need one more Elite choice in there to gain an extra CP.

I'm not sold on the Wracks in general if you can take almost anything else instead. Basically the changes to Battalion CP will mean that I likely won't ever take any because it's usually more efficient to stick with things that contribute to CP through Vanguard, Outrider or Spearhead detachments once you've figured out your Battalion. If I was more interested in Coven stuff then I could see using more 'tarpit' style list with lots of wracks...

In essence then I'd suggest dropping the Wracks and their ride in favor of Mandrakes. With a small unit you'll also save 50+ points by dropping that Raider, and you'd gain a CP.

I also have to admit to a bit of concern around the amount of shooting you can deliver... and specifically dark lances. I don't think I'll ever leave home without 2 Ravagers as a base line... (1 triple-lance, the other with 2 Dissies) At 1500 I'm just not sure that you'll need that many Succubi... those points might be better spent on a Ravager.

If you really want an Alliance of Agony, I'd suggest something like:

Flayed Skull Kabal Battalion (as presented basically, but at least one Lance Ravager. I also take 3x5 Kabalites, but one of them gets a Raider so that they can hang with a Blaster Archon - it's a great mid-field troubleshooter unit)

Prophets Vanguard (Haemo + 1xGrot/Raider + 2x Mandrakes)

Cult Patrol (1xSuccubus + Wych/Raider)

That'll still leave you with 2 solid assault units in Raiders, but you'll also gain a little 'Deep-strike' and light assault capability in the Mandrakes (SO WORTH IT). My strategy is based on two assault Raiders; one to use Enhanced Aethersails and the other for Screaming Jets to make sure they arrive relatively untouched. If you really want that third assault Raider then even something like 5 Incubi with one of your Archons is pretty cheap, killy, and easy to add into a Vanguard detachment.

Cheers,

The Good Doctor.
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PostSubject: Re: Web way raiding party   Web way raiding party I_icon_minitimeWed Apr 18 2018, 18:16

Hm...good suggestion regarding the Ravager and the patrol to vanguard conversion. Think is, I only own 9 Mandrakes, as I use spirit hosts models from Warhammer Fant...um..Age of Sigmar.
So I guess I´d stick with two units of Grotesques and try to squeeze in the one Ravager I own.

Cheers!
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PostSubject: Re: Web way raiding party   Web way raiding party I_icon_minitimeWed Apr 18 2018, 18:24

Yep - that's a solid compromise... I was on 1 Ravager for years and just upgraded to two; highly recommend.

Also to get to 10 Mandrakes, maybe convert one Kabalite to be more 'spooky' as a leader or 'summoner' for your evil spirits??

Cheers,

The Good Doctor.
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PostSubject: Re: Web way raiding party   Web way raiding party I_icon_minitimeWed Apr 18 2018, 18:30

Still difficult to fit this into 1500 points. I'll give the conversion idea a shot once my true born goes to kindergarten.

This is the new list idea:


++ Battalion Detachment +3CP (Aeldari - Drukhari)++

+ No Force Org Slot +

Detachment Attribute: Kabal of the Flayed Skull

+ HQ +

Archon: Blast Pistol, Famed Savagery, Huskblade, Phantasm Grenade Launcher, The Djin Blade, Warlord (Archon)

Archon: Blaster, Huskblade, Phantasm Grenade Launcher

+ Troops +

Kabalite Warriors
. 3x Kabalite Warrior
. Kabalite Warrior with special weapon: Blaster
. Sybarite: Agoniser, Blast Pistol, Phantasm Grenade Launcher

Kabalite Warriors
. 3x Kabalite Warrior
. Kabalite Warrior with special weapon: Blaster
. Sybarite: Agoniser, Blast Pistol, Phantasm Grenade Launcher

Kabalite Warriors
. 3x Kabalite Warrior
. Kabalite Warrior with special weapon: Blaster
. Sybarite: Agoniser, Blast Pistol, Phantasm Grenade Launcher

+ Heavy Support +

Ravager: Dark Lance, Dark Lance, Dark Lance

+ Dedicated Transport +

Raider: Chain Snares, Dark Lance, Grisly Trophies, Phantasm Grenade Launcher, Shock Prow

Raider: Chain Snares, Dark Lance, Grisly Trophies, Phantasm Grenade Launcher, Shock Prow

++ Vanguard Detachment +1CP (Aeldari - Drukhari)++

+ No Force Org Slot +

Detachment Attribute: Prophets of Flesh

+ HQ +

Haemonculus: Electrocorrosive whip, Splinter Pistol

+ Elites +

2x
Grotesques
.4x Grotesque: Flesh Gauntlet, Monstrous cleaver

Mandrakes: 8x Mandrake, Nightfiend

+ Dedicated Transport +

Raider: Chain Snares, Dark Lance, Grisly Trophies, Phantasm Grenade Launcher, Shock Prow

Raider: Chain Snares, Dark Lance, Grisly Trophies, Phantasm Grenade Launcher, Shock Prow

++ Patrol Detachment (Aeldari - Drukhari) ++

+ No Force Org Slot +

Detachment Attribute: Cult of Strife

+ HQ +

Succubus: Agoniser, Archite Glaive

+ Troops +

Wyches
. Hekatrix: Agoniser, Splinter pistol
. 4x Wych
. Wych with Wych Weapon: Shardnet and impaler

++ Total: [1500pts] ++
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PostSubject: Re: Web way raiding party   Web way raiding party I_icon_minitimeWed Apr 18 2018, 19:02

At 1482 I have:

Battalion (655):

2x Archon - 2 huskblade, 1 blaster/one blast pistol

3x5 Kabalites, blasters

3x Venom (stock)

Ravager - Lances -

Patrol (221):

Succubus - Archite/blast pistol

8 wyches (agonizer/pgl/impaler)

Raider

Vanguard - 606:

Haemo - Electrocorrosive

2x4 Grotesques

5 Mandrakes

2 Raiders (lances)

Cheers,

The Good Doctor.
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