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PostSubject: Re: Word on Street 100 Wyches, but how?   Wed Apr 18 2018, 09:54

@amishprn86 wrote:
@dumpeal wrote:
@amishprn86 wrote:
How are you keeping them alive?

They are supposed to stay alive?

You know what i mean... how are they doing anything if they are dead? They need to get to CC at least to be worth it.


Let me re phrase the question then............................
"How are you personally playing them to keep them a love long enough to see combat?"

I don't know if this is true. "Getting killed" is a valuable role for a unit if they're distracting your opponent from wiping out more threatening targets.

However, in that case I'm still cycling back to Kabalites being a better option for this than Wyches. 60 Kabalites are only 360 points (versus 480 for 60 Wyches) and don't need to be in combat to be a threat. They lose out on Cursed Blade's pseudo-fearless and the 6++ save but I'm not sure that's a huge deal.
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PostSubject: Re: Word on Street 100 Wyches, but how?   Wed Apr 18 2018, 11:29

Surely, this army more than any other is reason for a cronos!
That reroll wounds is a huge force multiplier here as it gives a 16% increase in all damage from squads in range. The only issue is the tax of a coven, but if you were running grotesques anyway, then just winning.

Btw a spirit probe becomes worth it at the 435 points of cc units (70pts/16%)

And if they shoot it then wow what a great distraction!
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PostSubject: Re: Word on Street 100 Wyches, but how?   Wed Apr 18 2018, 13:17

Yeah, any army with large amounts of melee attacks would benefit from a Cronos, i think if you are playing Wych and Coven you'll most likely want 1 Cronos.

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PostSubject: Re: Word on Street 100 Wyches, but how?   Wed Apr 18 2018, 14:24

@amishprn86 wrote:
Yeah, any army with large amounts of melee attacks would benefit from a Cronos, i think if you are playing Wych and Coven you'll most likely want 1 Cronos.

Having a cronos last game was really nice actually, it’s worth it for 65-75 points

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PostSubject: Re: Word on Street 100 Wyches, but how?   Wed Apr 18 2018, 15:17

@amishprn86 wrote:
How are you keeping them alive?

You have to clean up 60 wounds ignoring all the rest. I have a decent fire power and Reavers for cutting down some of your firepower.
In game it's not easy to focus on the ladies, if you're good with movements and playing with threats.
The thing is if you're going to target them and ignoring the rest, I'm fine too. If you're not going to kill enough of them, the Nets will be enough to tarpit down your infantry.

It's a well balanced list, but I can get the afraid. Reading the list is different that playing it, and I got myself surprised too about how well these girls works.


The key is to manage your threats. Push your opponent to make hard decisions, and never, never, charge in too many waves. You need an impact in 1-2 turns.


About the Cronos....mmm...2-3 Cronos with Fire&Fade are nice. But the problem is that they are too much heavy. Reavers and co. are good with Wyches because they can attract the same firepower of Wyches, where Talos (and Cronos/Grots as well) will attract heavy shots. So you're not pushing your opponent in making choices, you're actually maximise is shooting.
The thing is if I have bolters and lascannons, I have to shot my bolters agains Venoms, Reavers, Hellions, Wyches etc. But you field, let's say, Wyches and Cronos instead, I will just shoot bolters on Wyches and lascannons on Cronos.

So for the 20 mobs Wcyhes, I found myself in a better spot when I play them with other "bolter-targets range" units. Because you don't wanna throw some lascannons or heavy fire on Reavers, it's kinda a waste. You wanna make struggle your opponents, don't make him easy to choose who fire with wich weapon.

Reroll on Cronos sounds good indeed, but pulling put them in list it's tricky.
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