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Soulless Samurai
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PostSubject: Using Obsidian Rose   Fri Apr 13 2018, 19:47

What do you think is the best way to capitalise on the Obsidian Rose Obsession when building an army?

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PostSubject: Re: Using Obsidian Rose   Fri Apr 13 2018, 19:55

20 man warrior squad in a wwp portal with 4x shredders and possibly splinter cannons seems like a great choice for obsidian rose. The extra 6" range means you can very comfortably get those shredders in range and keep everything in rapid fire range. Then you also have their stratagem which I actually think is a nice little hidden gem for obsidian rose. If you lose say 4 warriors to moral, you just pick all 4 shredders to flee and you only need to kill one enemy model to not lose your shredders, plus benefit from a whole bunch of free shredder shots! If you want to run multiple 20 man warrior units you just have to keep in mind you can only use the stratagem once per turn.

As far as a general list goes, I think obsidian rose can do footslogging better than any other kabal, since the extra range is very handy to let you get into optimal fire range faster. Doesn't mean you have to footslogg, but if you want to obsidian rose probably does it best.

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PostSubject: Re: Using Obsidian Rose   Fri Apr 13 2018, 19:57

Webway Portal 2 blobs of 20 Kabs with the desired loadout.

Splinter Cannons and Shredders if they’re your anti-infantry.
Dark Lances and Blasters if you want to pop tanks or monsters.

Or mix and match as desired.

Kit the Archon with a Huskblade and use him to countercharge, but have him sprint for the Deepstriking unit’s once they’ve hit the board.  Advance + Blaster shot +Fire and fade can move you 15+D6” if you feel he NEEDS to be with his troops for the re-rolls.

Otherwise use different obsessions to kit out your other needs.

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PostSubject: Re: Using Obsidian Rose   Sat Apr 14 2018, 21:05

Interesting. I'll admit that I hadn't really considered the footslogging (WWP notwithstanding) aspect of Obsidian Rose. Or, at least, I hadn't considered it so central.


What about Flayed Skull - how would you tailor around their Obsession?

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PostSubject: Re: Using Obsidian Rose   Sat Apr 14 2018, 21:32

I'm meddling with something that isn't Black Heart/Alliance of Agony and want to try an Obsidian Rose Patrol with footslogging Kabalites and a pair of Ravagers, a Flayed Skull Patrol with a Raider and a pair of Venoms (all loaded with splinters), Flayed Skull Air Wing, Cult of Grief Patrol with 10 Wyches in a Raider (with a couple of Shardnets and Hydra Gauntlets), Succubus on foot, and a Fast Attack Red Grief Detachment with Reavers, Haywire Scourges and Shredder Scourges.

If I had more Raiders I'd use them but so it goes, I think Splinter Rack Flayed Skull Kabalites is one solid way to maximize the Obsession.
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PostSubject: Re: Using Obsidian Rose   Sat Apr 14 2018, 23:28

for flayed skull you really want venoms with abs for the sweet 19" move, and the ignore cover and reroll 1's on all guns except the blaster.

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PostSubject: Re: Using Obsidian Rose   Sun Apr 15 2018, 02:55

I use it all the time with my black heart!
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