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Melkor
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PostSubject: Re: Wych Weapon?   Sat Apr 14 2018, 01:29

I agree that the 10 man config is best. The problem with the 5 man config is that it is likely not going to get the best drugs unless you are very Cult heavy. After all, after you take the attack and str drugs out, wyches benefit from drugs drops dramatically. I don't think agonizers and blast pistols are amazing enough to warrant spamming, particularly when our access to them is fairly easy.
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PostSubject: Re: Wych Weapon?   Sat Apr 14 2018, 01:37

@Lord Asvaldir wrote:
10 mans get more wych cult weapons though, and that would be my preference over agonizers and blast pistols. Especially if you're making wyches s4, or even 5 it's better to have a mix of more razorflails/hydra gauntlets over agonizers. Plus I just don't like 5 man squads for assault units, if they start taking any casualties to shooting they rapidly start becoming too small. Plus when it comes to activations, better to have larger squads that  can active first instead of being split up.
I agree. Also more palatable to use stratagems on the larger unit.
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PostSubject: Re: Wych Weapon?   Sat Apr 14 2018, 17:31

After tried 20-20 wyches of the Cursed Blade, I can say that I'm satisfied.
1 net and 1 powersword it's enough.

Honestly, I prefer 20 or 5 men. 5 Wyches are great for making caos on the board, where 20 blobs are great for punch, board control etc.
10 is a midway that I don't really like so much.
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PostSubject: Re: Wych Weapon?   Sat Apr 14 2018, 17:41

Squads of 5 can die very easily to overwatch, and footslogging isn't that bad if you run a pure infantry/biker army anyway, but then squads of 20 are more recommandable. BUt WWP is still better for them.

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PostSubject: Re: Wych Weapon?   Sat Apr 14 2018, 18:47

The big advantage for Gauntlet over Flails is that :
- It isn't redundant with the Succubus aura
- It helps wound the big Toughness (vehicles, monsters).


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PostSubject: Re: Wych Weapon?   Sat Apr 14 2018, 18:51

Fair points. Although the flails aren't entirely redundant with a succubus around considering they give d3 extra attacks. Glad to see there being debate over options now instead of only ever having one good one
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PostSubject: Re: Wych Weapon?   Sat Apr 14 2018, 19:38

@Dr.Morbid wrote:
Squads of 5 can die very easily to overwatch, and footslogging isn't that bad if you run a pure infantry/biker army anyway, but then squads of 20 are more recommandable. BUt WWP is still better for them.

Never deepstrike anything that will not shoot AND is papermade :-/ the odds are terrible for that.
If you list well, you can play 20 mobs footslogging without problems.

About the overwatch, you can play around it
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PostSubject: Re: Wych Weapon?   Sat Apr 14 2018, 19:42

If you're mixing in coven units you could always try a vexator mask haemi to charge in first. They can't fire overwatch at him and if he gets in they can't fire overwatch at the wyches
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PostSubject: Re: Wych Weapon?   Sat Apr 14 2018, 20:15

Meh, the raider are still better to avoid the overwatch problem i think. The problem with the haemi is he is slower than the whyche
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PostSubject: Re: Wych Weapon?   Sat Apr 14 2018, 20:32

@Quauchtemoc wrote:
Meh, the raider are still better to avoid the overwatch problem i think. The problem with the haemi is he is slower than the whyche

Just charge with anything else before the ladies :-/
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PostSubject: Re: Wych Weapon?   Sat Apr 14 2018, 20:38

Anything that dont suffer too much of overwatch yes, and generally a vehicule because they have the speed to do thats easily
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PostSubject: Re: Wych Weapon?   Sun Apr 15 2018, 14:13

@Quauchtemoc wrote:
Anything that dont suffer too much of overwatch yes, and generally a vehicule because they have the speed to do thats easily

If we are talking about a foot list with cult here, you have those t5 high speed reavers as well right, why not use them?

Although boats are slgihtly more common in most list and work well.
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PostSubject: Re: Wych Weapon?   Sun Apr 15 2018, 14:24

By the time my wyches are charging, my reavers have already spent 2 turns tarpiting some tanks Very Happy

But yes, they are great overwatch-eaters.

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