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PostSubject: Alliance of Agony - Freakshow Lite 2000 points   Alliance of Agony - Freakshow Lite 2000 points I_icon_minitimeWed Apr 11 2018, 19:05

Goal: Melee oriented, lots of leadership de-buffs (but not to the extreme), character sniping options for taking out key leadership/fearless aura characters. (Reaver fly by, reaver heat lance, dark creed relic+strat, PT relic)

BP- blast pistol, GT - Grisly trophies, PGL - phantasm grenade launcher

Warlord Traits: Archon: Ancient Evil, Succubus: Blood Dancer Haemonculus: Fear Incarnate

2000 points 10-3 cp = 7 CP Alliance of Agony/Treasures of the Dark City/Webway Kabalites

Battalion Poisoned Tongue


WL-HQ Archon Huskblade, Soul Seeker relic 76
HQ       'Dracon' agoniser, blast pistol, PGL        87

Troop 20 Kabalite Warriors 4 blasters,   188
Troop 5 Kabalite Warriors Blaster                47
Troop 5 Kabalite Warriors Blaster                47

Special Court of the Archon 1 sslyth, 2 lhameans 57
Transport Venom Splinter Cannon/rifle, Kablites 65
Transport Venom Splinter Cannon/rifle, Kablaites 65
Transport Venom Splinter Cannon/rifle, Wyches 65

Battalion    Strife

HQ       Succubus +1A Agoniser, blast pistol               64 (is it worth upgrading agoniser to triptech?)
HQ      'BloodBride' (roll) glaive, blast pistol               60
Troop Wyches (roll) hydra gauntlet, agoniser, BP,      58
Troop Wyches +1 Str hydra gauntlet, agoniser, BP,    58
Troop Wyches (+1T) shardnet and impaler, agoniser, BP, 59

Fast Reaver Jetbikes +2 mv 2 heat lance 2 grav talon       114


Vanguard- The Dark Creed

HQ Haemonculus Sting relic, agoniser               79

Elite 3 Grotesques                                           105
Elite 3 Grotesques                                       105
Elite 5 Mandrakes                                        80
Heavy  1 Talos     macro scalpals, 2 Haywire Blaster 99
Heavy  1 Cronos Spirit probe, spirit vortex        75
Fast Scourge 4  Haywire Blasters 92
Transport Raider 1 dissintigrator cannon, GT, PGL 85 - carries 10 wyches
Transport Raider 1 dissintigrator cannon, GT, PGL 85 - carries 3 grots, 4 characters/court
Transport Raider 1 Dissintegrator Cannon, GT, PG  85 - carries 3 grots, 4 characters/court

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PostSubject: Re: Alliance of Agony - Freakshow Lite 2000 points   Alliance of Agony - Freakshow Lite 2000 points I_icon_minitimeWed Apr 11 2018, 20:45

I'm far from an expert, so take my advice with a pinch of salt:

1) I think it's usually worth upgrading the Succubus' Agoniser to the Whip, since they gain the most from taking artefacts. However, you've already got 2 and I don't think it's worth 3 CPs. Unless you want to swap out the Haemonculus' pistol (or just do it for fun), I'd probably leave it.

2) Is +2M not a bit wasted on Reavers? Also, if you have the option, I think its definitely worth upgrading those Heat Lances to Blasters.

3) Any particular reason for the Agoniser on the Haemonculus over the Electrocorrosive Whip?

4) The Cronos seems out of place here. The Talos might be okay on its own, but the Cronos is a support unit (and a weak one at that) and it seems like the rest of your army will just leave it behind. Razz

5) Do you think you've got enough anti-tank? You've got 1 unit of Haywire Scourges, 2 Heat Lances, 6 Blasters and some Blast Pistols and that's about it. It seems a little low for 2000pts (unless you fight mostly infantry armies?). I'd probably try to upgrade the Disintegrators on the Raiders to Dark Lances, and maybe add in another unit of Scourges (dropping the Cronos and maybe a couple of Blast Pistols).

Hope this helps.

Whether you take my suggestions or not, I'd love to hear how this army does. Smile

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PostSubject: Re: Alliance of Agony - Freakshow Lite 2000 points   Alliance of Agony - Freakshow Lite 2000 points I_icon_minitimeWed Apr 11 2018, 21:03

The whip could get absurdly powerful with that trait, but its 2 CP more, and i want those other relics for sniping

+2 mv is to hopefully postion them without advancing because i went strife instead of red grief so the wyches would be better

I could upgrade to the electro whip, only 2 points

cronos is another dark creed -1, its re roll of 1 to wound is good for most of the army. I hope with advancing it should get into combat turn 3, but if i did drop it, id take more covens stuff for those -1 ld bubbles

dark lances might be a good idea, only 5 more points. I'll want to be able to crack a rhino before i shoot the kabalite bomb so idont have to waste the poison

the blast pistols will hopefully be a very useful supplement for the anti tank, but we'll have to wait and see. The units of 5 may be too small to keep the pistol around a while

thanks for the critique! I have a game tomorrow vs infantry+fortification guard (perfect army for this list) I'll probably upgrade to lances, triptech, and electro whip and see how it plays out

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PostSubject: Re: Alliance of Agony - Freakshow Lite 2000 points   Alliance of Agony - Freakshow Lite 2000 points I_icon_minitimeFri Apr 13 2018, 14:38

Update: Played salamanders... which was sort of a hard counter

Couldnt use freakshow while Vulcan was alive. He also had St. Celestine so I had trouble getting to vulcan with that and the flamers.

Neither list was hyper competitive, he only had a dread, razorback and landspeeder for armour, all were gone by the end of turn 3, even with wasting blasters into Celestine

I was tabled in turn 7, all he had lef were 8 marines, vulcan, one lone termy and a company ancient

TAKE AWAYS: Melee ate Ceelstine twice, dont watse shooting on her unless you plan to charge right after

Remember to disembark kabs when youre near an archon, and in general, if youre just hanging out in your zone, move towards your archon for re rolls. Im super not used to having useful auras haha

soul seeker didnt get many chances to shine, but i love the dark creed relic and the triptech whip got like 17 attacks off, whiffed the wound roll though then was killed by celestine

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PostSubject: Re: Alliance of Agony - Freakshow Lite 2000 points   Alliance of Agony - Freakshow Lite 2000 points I_icon_minitimeFri Apr 13 2018, 14:44

Bad luck in losing. Sounds like it was a close game, at least.

Shame about Soul Seeker, as well. I had high hopes for it.

Can I ask what you used to kill Celestine twice in melee?


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PostSubject: Re: Alliance of Agony - Freakshow Lite 2000 points   Alliance of Agony - Freakshow Lite 2000 points I_icon_minitimeFri Apr 13 2018, 15:18

Everything.

I let her run into 6 reavers, and consolidate into a venom after eating the reavers. That meant she had no overwatch.

So I rand 3 grots, a succubus, my warlord (archon), talos, cronos, sslyth, and a lhamean into her

She used an interupt to kill the lhamean, succubus doged the other half of the attacks,

took talos, grots, succubus and arhcon to kill her. Cronos re roll of ones were brilliant.

Then she respawned a little ways away, so i ran the succubus with triptech whip into her, 3 grots, talos, cronos, warlord, and haemonculus. This was after shooting her wit dark creed relic for 2 wounds and a bunch of other crap to kill off her gemini.

So basically, i just held back, shot what i could and dog piled celestine. My error was trying to kill vulcan with no strats for mortal wounds left. I shouldve just focused down the thers and let vulcan be bogged down by wyches.

I think Soul seeker is perfect how it is, -1 ap means they usually use their invuln, problem is with only 3 shots its hard to get passed an invuln sometimes. better for killing a commisar or beastmaster type character

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PostSubject: Re: Alliance of Agony - Freakshow Lite 2000 points   Alliance of Agony - Freakshow Lite 2000 points I_icon_minitimeFri Apr 13 2018, 15:35

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Everything.

I let her run into 6 reavers, and consolidate into a venom after eating the reavers. That meant she had no overwatch.

So I rand 3 grots, a succubus, my warlord (archon), talos, cronos, sslyth, and a lhamean into her

She used an interupt to kill the lhamean, succubus doged the other half of the attacks,

took talos, grots, succubus and arhcon to kill her. Cronos re roll of ones were brilliant.

Then she respawned a little ways away, so i ran the succubus with triptech whip into her, 3 grots, talos, cronos, warlord, and haemonculus. This was after shooting her wit dark creed relic for 2 wounds and a bunch of other crap to kill off her gemini.

Wow. I guess I hadn't realised how much of a bugger she is to kill.

Then again, it probably doesn't help that we have almost nothing to capitalise on her being T3.

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So basically, i just held back, shot what i could and dog piled celestine. My error was trying to kill vulcan with no strats for mortal wounds left. I shouldve just focused down the thers and let vulcan be bogged down by wyches.

Just to be clear, is this the normal character Vulcan or is this some sort of Primach?

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I think Soul seeker is perfect how it is, -1 ap means they usually use their invuln, problem is with only 3 shots its hard to get passed an invuln sometimes. better for killing a commisar or beastmaster type character

I hate to break it to you, but the Soul Seeker only has two shots, not three.

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PostSubject: Re: Alliance of Agony - Freakshow Lite 2000 points   Alliance of Agony - Freakshow Lite 2000 points I_icon_minitimeFri Apr 13 2018, 16:28

Hahaha well it’s a good thing I never wounded with it then, aside from the odd marine

Well actually our wyches and husk blade archon can, just didn’t have any wyches around her

She’s not worth shooting at if your army is assault based, just let her get to close and swat her

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