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Midknight Archon
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PostSubject: 1000 point tournament    1000 point tournament  I_icon_minitimeMon Apr 09 2018, 14:53

Greeting fellow depraved denizens of the Dark City.

With barely a week into our new codex I'm taking part in a small point tournament and would like you opinion on it:

Patrol 1
Obsession: Cult of the Cursed Blade
HQ: Succubi (Archite Glaive, Splinter Pistol, Drug to be decided)
Troop: 20 Wyches (shardnet & impaler, +1A Drug)
Patrol 2
Obsession: Kabal of the Obsidan Rose
HQ: Archon (Huskblade, Splinter Pistol)
Troop: 20 Kabalites with Splinter Rifles
Patrol 3
Obsession: Naval of the Black Heart
HQ: Archon (Huskblade,Splinter Pistol, Relic-Writ of the living muse)
Troops: 10 Kabalitrs with Splinter Rifles
Dedicated Transport: Raider(Dark Lance, Splinter Racks)
Heavy Support: Ravager (3 Disintigrator Cannons)
Flyer: Razorwing Jetfighter (Splinter Cannon, 2 Dark Lances)
Total Points: 997
Total CP: 7
I intend to use the 20 kabs to screen the front of my deployment and place the units blocking deepstrike while deepstriking my wych blob for a turn 1 or 2 assault.
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PostSubject: Re: 1000 point tournament    1000 point tournament  I_icon_minitimeTue Apr 10 2018, 09:44

Hi,

I'm still working out DE in 8th, so can't really critique the entire list, but, I'm afraid you only get 3CP not 7.

To get the bonus +4 for the 3 Patrols, 1 needs to be a Coven, you must have 1 Kabal, 1 Cult & 1 Coven

Not sure if you want to rethink the entire list now or not Sad
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PostSubject: Re: 1000 point tournament    1000 point tournament  I_icon_minitimeTue Apr 10 2018, 09:52

@Rewind wrote:
Hi,

I'm still working out DE in 8th, so can't really critique the entire list, but, I'm afraid you only get 3CP not 7.

To get the bonus +4 for the 3 Patrols, 1 needs to be a Coven, you must have 1 Kabal, 1 Cult & 1 Coven

Not sure if you want to rethink the entire list now or not [smiley]https://illiweb.com/fa/i/smiles/icon_sad.gif[/smiley]

I think you're thinking of the alliance of agony not the raiding party. You don't need to have one of each subfraction in the patrols to get the +4CP.

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PostSubject: Re: 1000 point tournament    1000 point tournament  I_icon_minitimeTue Apr 10 2018, 09:56

Hey Smile

You are indeed correct & I'm glad you are, but that means I need to rework my own list Sad
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PostSubject: Re: 1000 point tournament    1000 point tournament  I_icon_minitimeTue Apr 10 2018, 12:30

Hey MA,

hm I was kind of sceptical at first when I saw your lack of transports but I guess it could work well actually. But imo only if you also DS the 20 Kabalites (maybe give them a different obesssion if you do). Because then we’re all of a sudden not talking about 20 Wyches with their pants down out in the open after their failed charge, but also another 20 kabalites in rapid fire range. Might force some difficult decisions on your opponent. Plus if you make the Kabalites Poison Tongue you can use the stratagem to prevent morale losses.

What do you think?

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PostSubject: Re: 1000 point tournament    1000 point tournament  I_icon_minitimeTue Apr 10 2018, 12:38

Hey BC

I see what your getting at and it does make sense depending on my opponent. I know for a fact that one guy will be putting out 2 blobs of 30 tzanggors. With deep stoke, warp time and the relic that lets them get a free move They have a tendency to get the turn 1 alpha strike and wipe out my vehicles, while surrounding them so I lose the units inside too. My original plan was to spread the 20 kabs across my front line to stop the turn 1 charge of my squishy vehicles. After that pull them back onto the objective and use the extra range to defend and counter assault with my wychs ( use architects of pain turn 1 if need be to get the reroll to charge) I also toyed with the idea of taking a aux support detachment of red grief reavers, give them the T drugs and use them as overwatch tanks for my wychs but if have to lose either the ravager or the razorwing, which leaves me with little to no AT
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PostSubject: Re: 1000 point tournament    1000 point tournament  I_icon_minitimeTue Apr 10 2018, 14:54

Ouch, I can see where you’re coming from now. Those Tzaangors sure are annoying, and one of my buddies has recently started TS, too. I was actually thinking about just shoving a Talos or Cronos in their face, that’d probably keep them busy for a while, no? And a Talos can be had for just under 100 pts, seems alright. But that doesn’t help you without a coven patrol :/

The reason I’m thinking about tarpiting them is that when I encountered them I charged them with about 5-7 Death Company with Lemartes re-rolls and the Tzaangs just took it on the chin and wiped my DC in return.

Do you know what else you’ll be facing?
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PostSubject: Re: 1000 point tournament    1000 point tournament  I_icon_minitimeTue Apr 10 2018, 15:30

Tzanggors are brutal when done right. He always has a shaman within 6 to get them hitting on 2s with a full squad of 30 and a psyker waiting in the wings with diabolic strength. I k ow for certain their will be a fire warriors spam Tau list which will be problematic to charge but I should be able to draw them out into the centre of the field. Apart from that it's up to date who I face
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PostSubject: Re: 1000 point tournament    1000 point tournament  I_icon_minitimeMon Apr 16 2018, 07:17

Well that ended up really fun, even if I came 8th out of 9 players lol

It was 4 games, 1 hour each. 3 objectives (1 centre and 1 on each deployment zone). Game 1 was against world eaters. Really close game secured first blood, warlord and lone breaker to make it 6 co to 7 in his favour at the end of turn 3.

Second game was against deathwatch with Eisenhorn. Time was my enemy here however. Time was called part way through turn 2. Got first blood and line breaker for a 5 to 6 loss.

Third game was against necrons. They put up a good firght (Only army to kill any of my HQ when his overlords charged my succubus in an epic confrontation). However my wychs charging from their back line and an onslaught of poison and lance weapons from my deployment better me first blood, warlord and line breaker for my only won at 9 to 4 on turn 3.

My final game came up against the guy who ended up second place running thousand sons. This one wasn't as close with only hoping one objective and line breaker losing 4 to 7 on turn 3.

Now I'm not the most competitive focused players but I think we do have some awsome tools at our disposal for competitive play.
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