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colinsherlow
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PostSubject: 2k competition Drukhari    2k competition Drukhari  I_icon_minitimeMon Apr 09 2018, 03:53

Only 8CP though. Meh!

2k rough draft.  1992points. So 8 points for whatever.

8CPs

Black Heart Kabal
spearhead detachment

Archon w/ Warlord (labyrinthine cunning), relic writ of living muse, agoniser.

3x Ravagers w/disintegrators.

2x Razorwing jetfighters w/ dark lances

5 Scourges w/ 4 dark lances

3x Raiders w/ dark Lance's


Obsidian Rose Kabal
Battalion detachment

2xArchon w/huskblade, blaster.

2x10 kabalites w/2 blasters, 1 splinter cannon

5 kabalites w/ 1 blaster


Red Grief Cult
Battalion

Succubus w/ probably the relic blood glaive.

12 reaver jetbikes w/ 3 heat lances

2x3 reaver jetbikes



C&C welcome and appreciated

9 disintegrators
11 dark Lance's
7 blasters
2xRaven missiles
2 splinter cannons
33 splinter rifles

I chose dark lances on the scourge because I want the option to be able to hang back if required and to feel like less of a suicide squad. Plus of near the black heart archon they will reroll 1s to hit and wound which is pretty nice.

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PostSubject: Re: 2k competition Drukhari    2k competition Drukhari  I_icon_minitimeMon Apr 09 2018, 06:44

Thats an interesting list. I would like to know how well it does.

Scourge do not have a Kabal keyword so they would not be affected by rerolls on 1 to hit and wound.

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PostSubject: Re: 2k competition Drukhari    2k competition Drukhari  I_icon_minitimeMon Apr 09 2018, 07:49

Yeah especially because of that don't bother with dark lances, far better to deep strike in blaster scourges for a guaranteed round of shooting, plus with fire&fade you can keep deep striking scourges a good distance away from their target after shooting.

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PostSubject: Re: 2k competition Drukhari    2k competition Drukhari  I_icon_minitimeMon Apr 09 2018, 07:53

Scourge don't benefit from the obsession. .
But are they are say a kabal of the black heart unit being from that detachment? I am probably just being special at the moment. I hear a few beers can do that to a man

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PostSubject: Re: 2k competition Drukhari    2k competition Drukhari  I_icon_minitimeMon Apr 09 2018, 08:24

Fire and Fade is not an obsession, it's a stratagem.

Still, even though you take a -1 to hit when you deep strike, you can land that much farther from the enemy, thus saving you the CP (of which you don't have that many).

Only 3 points extra per model. Worth a try, anyway.
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PostSubject: Re: 2k competition Drukhari    2k competition Drukhari  I_icon_minitimeMon Apr 09 2018, 16:01

@withershadow wrote:
Fire and Fade is not an obsession, it's a stratagem.

Still, even though you take a -1 to hit when you deep strike, you can land that much farther from the enemy, thus saving you the CP (of which you don't have that many).


Only 3 points extra per model. Worth a try, anyway.


Iove fire and fade. So good!
And yeah I am giving dark lances to scourges. I would rather keep them safe and shooting for more than a turn or 2  and have those lances xo work all game.

And yeah I don't want to have to use any unnecessary CPs.

If have a list with 10, but theist doesn't quite to what I want. The wych outrider turns into a battalion detachment. I lose the big bike unit. Well is turns into a unit of 3. No scourges and that all changes into 3x5wyches w/ agoniser, shardnet and blast pistol. Plus the extra succubus and raider

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PostSubject: Re: 2k competition Drukhari    2k competition Drukhari  I_icon_minitimeMon Apr 09 2018, 16:11

I still disagree, dark lances feel like you're putting an unnecessary handicap on deep striking scourges by making them hit on 4s instead of 3s. It's only 4 shots, every point of bs counts. And often if your opponent wants those scourges  dead the extra range won't always help them. Yes you have to spend a cp for fire&fade, but it's not something you'll have to use every time and it's useful for say, getting your scourges from the top of a building where they have good LoS to down behind it where they will be more hidden.

If you just already have them assembled with dark lances though I understand wanting to keep them with those.

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PostSubject: Re: 2k competition Drukhari    2k competition Drukhari  I_icon_minitimeMon Apr 09 2018, 17:44

Unless you are really set on the drive-over strat (and it is awesome), I would consider 3 units of 6 reavers after you've played the list for awhile. I would also go with blasters and grav talons.
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PostSubject: Re: 2k competition Drukhari    2k competition Drukhari  I_icon_minitimeMon Apr 09 2018, 19:58

@Woozl wrote:
Unless you are really set on the drive-over strat (and it is awesome), I would consider 3 units of 6 reavers after you've played the list for awhile. I would also go with blasters and grav talons.

The plan is for the drive over strat. Otherwise I would for sure run more msu bikes. Which I might end up doing anyways.

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PostSubject: Re: 2k competition Drukhari    2k competition Drukhari  I_icon_minitimeMon Apr 09 2018, 23:54

@Lord Asvaldir wrote:
I still disagree, dark lances feel like you're putting an unnecessary handicap on deep striking scourges by making them hit on 4s instead of 3s. It's only 4 shots, every point of bs counts. And often if your opponent wants those scourges  dead the extra range won't always help them....

That is my train of thought as well.

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