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Melkor
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PostSubject: Raiding Force 1000 pts   Raiding Force 1000 pts I_icon_minitimeSat Apr 07 2018, 21:52

Hello! I'm playing around with utilizing the Raiding force rules to their fullest, starting with a 1000 point list. All equipment is standard unless otherwise noted. Please let me know what you think!

Black Heart Patrol

Archon WL Trait: Labrynthine Cunning
Blast Pistol
Huskblade
Writ of the Living Muse

Commentary: Obviously he likes to hang out with Ravagers. It feels like a waste, but I'm having a hard time finding a more active role for an Archon.

9x Warriors (Lellith Fan Club)
Blaster
Blast Pistol

Raider
Disintegrator Cannon

Scourges
4 Haywire Blasters

Ravager
3 Dark Lances

Ravager
3 Disintegrator Cannons

Cult of Strife Patrol

Lellith Hesperax WL Trait: Blood Dancer

10 Wyches
Shardnet and Impaler
2 Sets of Hydra Gauntlets
Hekatrix Agonizer

Raider
Disintegrator Cannon

Prophets of Flesh Patrol

Haemonculus WL Trait: Diabolical Soothsayer

5 Wracks
Liquifier Gun
Scissorhands

1000 pts exactly, if my math is right


While not reaching IG levels, I think this list has a healthy dose of CP at 8-10. I see no reason to blow a lot pre-game either. There are no obvious targets for portals, and I think the Raiders can make it without use of screaming jets. I also see no Haemy relics I'm dying for. My trouble is that the coven feels like a tax to me.
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PostSubject: Re: Raiding Force 1000 pts   Raiding Force 1000 pts I_icon_minitimeSat Apr 07 2018, 23:44

Hey Very Happy it looks good, simmiliar what I am going to run. What I personally would change are the hwb-> blasters. They are more safe, as you can kill monsters and snipe characters after dropping behind enemy lines
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PostSubject: Re: Raiding Force 1000 pts   Raiding Force 1000 pts I_icon_minitimeSun Apr 08 2018, 18:37

I hear you, but the points would be hard to find. That'd be an additional 36 points?
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PostSubject: Re: Raiding Force 1000 pts   Raiding Force 1000 pts I_icon_minitimeSun Apr 08 2018, 19:02

If your archon is hanging with the ravagers then taking venom blade and splinter pistol would save on points.

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PostSubject: Re: Raiding Force 1000 pts   Raiding Force 1000 pts I_icon_minitimeTue Apr 10 2018, 09:48

Hi,

8-10 CP? Surely you only get 7?

3 from being Battle Forged +4 for 3 Patrols?
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PostSubject: Re: Raiding Force 1000 pts   Raiding Force 1000 pts I_icon_minitimeTue Apr 10 2018, 12:25

Diabolical Soothsayer grants 1d3, add that to the seven you calculated and you get 8-10.
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PostSubject: Re: Raiding Force 1000 pts   Raiding Force 1000 pts I_icon_minitimeTue Apr 10 2018, 12:29

Ohh,

Thank you Smile
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PostSubject: Re: Raiding Force 1000 pts   Raiding Force 1000 pts I_icon_minitimeTue Apr 10 2018, 12:52

That looks really nice and fun to play.

You have to deduct 1 CP for Alliance of Agony though. You get 4+3 minus 1 plus D3. So 7-9.

The Ravagers might make good targets for Screaming Jets if going against a very shooty army in case they go first. I know my opponents like to target them early but thats meta-dependend.

And yes, the Coven does seem like a tax, I’m running into the same issue with my own lists unfortunately. Basically the only advantage is an extra warlord trait, a re-roll for the Haemi and the potential to get 2 more CPs. Versus whatever else you can buy for those points instead, like another patrol of Kabalites from Flayed Skull for instance. Not sure whats better to be honest.

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PostSubject: Re: Raiding Force 1000 pts   Raiding Force 1000 pts I_icon_minitimeTue Apr 10 2018, 12:59

I personally like the addition of a small coven detachment as a backfield objective holder, use black cornicopians if they get whittled down or as an emergency redeploy into enemy territory
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PostSubject: Re: Raiding Force 1000 pts   Raiding Force 1000 pts I_icon_minitimeTue Apr 10 2018, 13:11

Fair enough, I do need to spend that point on Alliance of Agony.

The problem with jetting the Ravagers is that the Archon won't be able to keep up. I want them to have those rerolls.

On Coven: I'd kinda like the Wracks to be 10 strong and use the Prophets of Flesh strategem, but it feels not worth it in the end. Ultimately I feel like I'm getting a middling objective holder plus 1d3 cp for 139 points as is. Is it worth it? Maybe, I'm not sure yet.

On Scourges: Haywire Blaster is definitely the wrong choice here. I'm thinking of downgrading Lellith to a Succubus and doing a little tinkering to take Blasters. That causes its own imperfections, but that's the way of the world.
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PostSubject: Re: Raiding Force 1000 pts   Raiding Force 1000 pts I_icon_minitimeTue Apr 10 2018, 13:14

Remember, the ravagers don't need to deepstrike away from the Archon. Just use it to keep them off the table for turn 1 bombardments
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PostSubject: Re: Raiding Force 1000 pts   Raiding Force 1000 pts I_icon_minitimeWed Apr 11 2018, 23:18

Why no vehicles? They are even better now
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PostSubject: Re: Raiding Force 1000 pts   Raiding Force 1000 pts I_icon_minitimeWed Apr 11 2018, 23:53

I'm afraid I don't understand. I have 2 Raiders and 2 Ravagers. What am I lacking?
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PostSubject: Re: Raiding Force 1000 pts   Raiding Force 1000 pts I_icon_minitimeWed Apr 11 2018, 23:53

Just a small note, placing the raider from the cult detachment in the black heart detachment will give it the feel no pain and still allow it to transport the wyches
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PostSubject: Re: Raiding Force 1000 pts   Raiding Force 1000 pts I_icon_minitimeThu Apr 12 2018, 00:04

Yes you are right on that. I had a small misunderstanding on the rules implications when i wrote this list.
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