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PostSubject: Best tactics so far?   Tue Apr 03 2018, 21:43

The codex isn't fully released, but we have a good taste of it's content. So, my question is : How do you intend to use it? So far, I see several tactics/army orientations :


-Mass Wyches (+1 s cult, +1 attack drug) with net screaming jets near ennemy, backed with black heart ravagers and small prophet of flesh patrol.

-Freakshow (all the moral debuff you can find)

-Gunboats of either black heart or poisonned tongue. Could work well with some morale shenanigan.

-Mass 20wracks and use most of the command points to repop injuried units.
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PostSubject: Re: Best tactics so far?   Tue Apr 03 2018, 21:44

I intend to acquire it, thoroughly inspect the unit entries, and make informed decisions once I have the book in my hands.

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PostSubject: Re: Best tactics so far?   Tue Apr 03 2018, 21:46

The correct answer should be all of the above.

I might finally put Wyches down on the table for the first time since 5th.

The question is which Obsession best suites my needs? Which one best suite yours?
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PostSubject: Re: Best tactics so far?   Tue Apr 03 2018, 21:57

@HERO wrote:
The correct answer should be all of the above.

I might finally put Wyches down on the table for the first time since 5th.

The question is which Obsession best suites my needs?  Which one best suite yours?

You're in a better position to answer those questions considering you're one of maybe three people here with the book in their lap.

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PostSubject: Re: Best tactics so far?   Tue Apr 03 2018, 22:14

@TeenageAngst wrote:
@HERO wrote:
The correct answer should be all of the above.

I might finally put Wyches down on the table for the first time since 5th.

The question is which Obsession best suites my needs?  Which one best suite yours?

You're in a better position to answer those questions considering you're one of maybe three people here with the book in their lap.

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PostSubject: Re: Best tactics so far?   Tue Apr 03 2018, 22:17

I mean I definetly intend to focus on flayed skull massed kabalites in transports for my initial list with a sprinkling of wych cults/haemonculus covens to benefit from alliance of agony, but I agree with TeenageAngst, it's a bit early to decide on best tactics/strategies without actually getting some playtesting in. Fortunately Saturday isn't too far off, and I will definetly get a test game in then.

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PostSubject: Re: Best tactics so far?   Tue Apr 03 2018, 22:18

Sorry, speculating here (book will be there friday) :


1st turn :

- Deep strike kabalites in RF range. Proceed to shred things.

- First turn charge bikes to prevent enemy from firing.

2nd turn :

- Disengage bikes from the targets you want to shoot at.

- Reengage targets that disengaged.

- Shoot what you want.


I think you can pull off a list where :

A, the opponent's key units are destroyed in the first turn

B, his back-up units never actually get to shoot and spend the game fighting decoy bikes.

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PostSubject: Re: Best tactics so far?   Tue Apr 03 2018, 22:38

@Mppqlmd wrote:
Sorry, speculating here (book will be there friday) :


1st turn :

- Deep strike kabalites in RF range. Proceed to shred things.

- First turn charge bikes to prevent enemy from firing.

2nd turn :

- Disengage bikes from the targets you want to shoot at.

- Reengage targets that disengaged.

- Shoot what you want.


I think you can pull off a list where :

A, the opponent's key units are destroyed in the first turn

B, his back-up units never actually get to shoot and spend the game fighting decoy bikes.

-To shoot at RF when you deep strike, you would need obsidian rose obsession. While it's the best obsession for the first turn, is it the best for the following turns?

-How do you intend to protect your self from ennemy's own deep strike?


Still, not a bad strategy overall.
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PostSubject: Re: Best tactics so far?   Tue Apr 03 2018, 22:47

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-To shoot at RF when you deep strike, you would need obsidian rose obsession. While it's the best obsession for the first turn, is it the best for the following turns?

Eh ? scratch

Rapid fire range is 12". You deepstrike at 9.1".

Or are you assuming that everyone bubblewraps ? In that case, I think even O. R. is not helping.

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PostSubject: Re: Best tactics so far?   Tue Apr 03 2018, 22:57

Something that can go second. So a lot of Deepstriking, hard alpha strike, and a lot of movement.

Precisely as a standard raid
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PostSubject: Re: Best tactics so far?   Tue Apr 03 2018, 23:09

@Cerve wrote:
Something that can go second. So a lot of Deepstriking, hard alpha strike, and a lot of movement.

Precisely as a standard raid

I relate to this Smile

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PostSubject: Re: Best tactics so far?   Wed Apr 04 2018, 06:54

Been running some Beta matches recently. So far I've had *crazy* good results using a Flayed Skull Blasterborn + BH Spearhead + BH/FS Air Wing list (depends if you want ignore cover [though the best guns are already -3/4] or the 6+++ on your flyers.....)


SJ the Blasterborn in Venoms to kill basically whatever you want T1 (ie, 3 Devilfish lol), Voidraven bombs their heavy inf., Ravagers SJ in and finish off their last "big guy" - blam, that's basically game at that point.

With 1/2 the army off the table it's basically a null deployment. I dont even know how I'd defend against it myself. Also! If ya wanna get real deep in it, start looking at Khymeras friend. 20pt for a unit of 2. 5 of these will net you 5 Screaming Jets for 100pt (admittedly you have to take a Beastmaster now but that's ok).


10 Khymera buys you 10 Screaming Jets. for 250pt w/BM. See where this is going? It gets crazy man, Null Deployment is BACK baby
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PostSubject: Re: Best tactics so far?   Wed Apr 04 2018, 08:11

Not understanding the connection between Khymera and Screaming Jets.  Can you explain?
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PostSubject: Re: Best tactics so far?   Wed Apr 04 2018, 08:35

You need 10 drops on the battlefield in order to deepstrike 10 units.

It's a bit steep to spend 10 CPs on SJ but you get the idea.
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