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PostSubject: HQ Squad Champions   Mon Apr 02 2018, 20:24

Hi everyone, this is my first time posting here. Hopefully this is the right place for what I want to ask.

I've got some Dark Eldar stuff but haven't touched it in ages. But the new book looks like a lot of fun and it's made me want to dig out my collection. I saw that a lot of points have been leaked so I started messing around with some lists.

The thing is, I kept running into the problem of what to do with HQs. It seems you need to run more than I know what to do with. I saw some people saying to put them all in the same transport, but that seems a bit boring.

But then someone on daka gave me an idea. He said that an archon with Soul Thirst (Warlord Trait), auskblade and the new 18" pistol thing was almost a Mandrake. Or maybe if you use webway as well.

Anyway, I thought it would be fun to try and have my HQs be like autarchs - where they're each really close to one particular squad.

An archon with the 3+ armour and huskblade (and Hatred Eternal?) could be an Incubus leader.

A haemonculus with flensing blade and liquifier as a Grotesque leader.

What do you think?

And any idea how to make leaders for basic troops? I guess I could give a succubus one of the wych weapons, but I don't know how to make an archon more like kabalites or a haemonculus more like wracks.
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PostSubject: Re: HQ Squad Champions   Mon Apr 02 2018, 20:36

Sorry, I think I posted in the wrong place. I thought this was general. Didn't mean to post in news.

No problem, topic moved - Count Adhemar
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PostSubject: Re: HQ Squad Champions   Mon Apr 02 2018, 20:50

I like that idea but I'm not so up to date with the relics names. Do you need several relics in your army for that and do we actually have a stratagem to take multiple?
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PostSubject: Re: HQ Squad Champions   Mon Apr 02 2018, 21:11

@CptMetal wrote:
I like that idea but I'm not so up to date with the relics names. Do you need several relics in your army for that and do we actually have a stratagem to take multiple?
Every army has a stratagem that lets you take a second relic for a CP and three for 3CP.
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PostSubject: Re: HQ Squad Champions   Mon Apr 02 2018, 21:24

Good to greet hear because I want my beat stick Archon and a suicide Succubus.
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PostSubject: Re: HQ Squad Champions   Mon Apr 02 2018, 21:52

@Soulless Samurai wrote:

But then someone on daka gave me an idea. He said that an archon with Soul Thirst (Warlord Trait), auskblade and the new 18" pistol thing was almost a Mandrake. Or maybe if you use webway as well.
What is this 18" pistol thing you speak of?
Sounds good.

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PostSubject: Re: HQ Squad Champions   Mon Apr 02 2018, 22:11

Soul Seeker! Range 18, doesn't require line of sight, can target characters. has... ap-2 I believe.
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PostSubject: Re: HQ Squad Champions   Mon Apr 02 2018, 22:16

@Marrath Yeah, it's the Soul Seeker. I think it was previewed on the warhammer site.

@Cptmetal Well, I think the first two need their artefacts.

The Soul Seeker looks the closest to the Mandrake attack in terms of range and shots. I guess I could use a Blaster but that seems a little mundane.

Unless I'm mistaken, the artefact armour (can't remember the name) is the only way to get a 3+ save.

Not sure about the Haemonculus. I thought wounding on 3+ would be closer to a Grotesque. But I think there's a warlord trait that does something similar, so I could probably use that instead.

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PostSubject: Re: HQ Squad Champions   Mon Apr 02 2018, 23:10

I like your idea. Can make for great conversions.
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PostSubject: Re: HQ Squad Champions   Tue Apr 03 2018, 09:08

@CptMetal Thanks! If I manage to make any conversions, I'll post them here.

Although, do we know if Drazhar is cheaper now? I just realised that if I want a HQ to go with Incubi, I might be better off using him.

I'm guessing the Archon aura doesn't actually affect Incubi?


Also, does anyone have suggestions for Wych, Wrack or Kabalite squad champions?

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PostSubject: Re: HQ Squad Champions   Tue Apr 03 2018, 16:53

All the special character went way down in price, I think Drazhar is 90pts now? He'll be good to buff inubi using the extra hits on 6s stratagem (5s when Drazhar is nearby), but Lileath is the real winner of the special characters as she went down to 80pts and is a beast.

Archon buff can't benefit incubi, not kabal keyword.

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PostSubject: Re: HQ Squad Champions   Tue Apr 03 2018, 17:19

Lord Asvaldir, if you wait for turn 3, that stratagem will be going off on 4s with Drazhar nearby. This could be deadly as half off all your attacks will be generating extra hits!
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PostSubject: Re: HQ Squad Champions   Tue Apr 03 2018, 17:24

It's unmodified 6's sadly.

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PostSubject: Re: HQ Squad Champions   Tue Apr 03 2018, 17:32

Darn it sure is, that's a bummer.

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