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PostSubject: 21 Vehicle list   21 Vehicle list I_icon_minitimeSat Mar 31 2018, 12:00

I always try to test a vehicle only list (only b.c i have 30+ vehicles for DE and its fun).

Outrider, x2
Haemonculus
Haemonculus
Venoms x2 SC: 75pts
Venoms x2 SC
Venoms x2 SC
Venoms x2 SC
Venoms x2 SC
Venoms x2 SC
Venoms x2 SC
Venoms x1 SC: 65pts
Venoms x1 SC
Ravager x3 DL: 140pts
Ravager x3 DL
Ravager x3 DL
Ravager x3 DL
Dedicated transports
Raider DC: 80pts
Raider DC
Raider DC
Raider DC
Raider DC
Raider DC
Raider DC
Raider DC
NOTE: Can do 4 Razorwings instead (tho 1 needs to be 2 Discannons) of the Ravagers for Charging Protection and more -1 to hit

1995pts 21 vehicles, 16 Splinter cannons, 8 Discannons, 12 DL's


Equally, you can do 2 Archons and have it all Black Hearts for 6+++

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PostSubject: Re: 21 Vehicle list   21 Vehicle list I_icon_minitimeSat Mar 31 2018, 12:28

Might be rusty but, how are you taking so many Dedicated Transports ? Isn't it 1 Transport per other choice ? You have 6 choices and 17 Transports.
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PostSubject: Re: 21 Vehicle list   21 Vehicle list I_icon_minitimeSat Mar 31 2018, 12:33

I messed it up, its only 17 vehicles, I forgot Venoms are not Fast anymore XD

Can take 2 venoms 1 raider out and add 35 kabals for 17.

I like that better tho, now you have 7x5 mans as bubble wrap and taking objective hehe

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PostSubject: Re: 21 Vehicle list   21 Vehicle list I_icon_minitimeSun Apr 01 2018, 14:42

This topic is relevant to my interests.

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PostSubject: Re: 21 Vehicle list   21 Vehicle list I_icon_minitimeSun Apr 01 2018, 14:53

So... looking more into it, you can do 1-2 flyers in each detachment and each flyer can have a dedicated transport.

I like this idea better honestly. Will do a list later (Unless someone else wants too) b.c im technically suppose to be with family right now lol

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PostSubject: Re: 21 Vehicle list   21 Vehicle list I_icon_minitimeSun Apr 01 2018, 15:14

anti infantry razorwings are a thing now being only 135 points or dissies
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PostSubject: Re: 21 Vehicle list   21 Vehicle list I_icon_minitimeSun Apr 01 2018, 15:16

Why not take an archon of the black hearth to get a 6+++ on all these vehicule ?
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PostSubject: Re: 21 Vehicle list   21 Vehicle list I_icon_minitimeSun Apr 01 2018, 15:30

Yeah, mathematically wouldn't it be better than an extra toughness? The toughness only applies to a couple weapon profiles. The 6++ Would just just be there. Also even though the trap card strat might not always be used, it really cancels some builds out immediately. I can think of a few meta top lists that aren't playable now just in case they come across any black heart army.
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PostSubject: Re: 21 Vehicle list   21 Vehicle list I_icon_minitimeSun Apr 01 2018, 15:57

@Quauchtemoc wrote:
Why not take an archon of the black hearth to get a 6+++ on all these vehicule ?

Good idea. I like it, its also more dice rolling and its fun to watch your opponent when you make some 6+++ rolls

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PostSubject: Re: 21 Vehicle list   21 Vehicle list I_icon_minitimeMon Apr 02 2018, 08:46

Sorry, I'll hijack a little bit.

In our club, we don't really duplicate detachments, so no *2 Spearhead, but something like this might work?

Spearhead Detachment - Kabal of the Black Heart
Archon (reroll 1s to hit and wound w/ artefact, gains CP on 6+)
6 Ravagers 3 DL
2 Razorwing 2 DC
5 Raider DC
4 Venom 2 SC

18 DL, 9 DC, 8 SC.
Can swap a Raider for a Venom for more SC: 18 DL, 8 DC, 10 SC.

Or

Spearhead Detachment - Kabal of the Black Heart
Archon (Warlord, reroll 1s to hit and wound w/ artefact, gains CP on 6+)
4 Ravagers 3 DL
2 Ravagers 3 DC
2 Razorwing 2 DC
5 Raider DC
4 Venom 2 SC

12 DLs, 15 DCs, 8 SC.

150 pts left (I think?). What to do?
Haemy for 1d3 CP (you pay 1 but you may have 1-2 more CPs) and a Succubus for another warlord trait.
Kabalites for objective holders maybe. But it would go against the vehicle heavy list.

If you can duplicate detachments, problem solved: Go for 2 Spearhead and add a flyer/Venom + Raider
18-19 vehicles.
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