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PostSubject: Re: TTT DE video   Sat Mar 31 2018, 02:26

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I've seen it. Took notes. I can answer questions. I missed some things got most of it.

Why answer questions when you can post notes? lol

because it's a lot! haha. WOuld take me hours to transcribe. I might do later but to tide you all over Razz
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PostSubject: Re: TTT DE video   Sat Mar 31 2018, 02:33

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because it's a lot! haha. WOuld take me hours to transcribe. I might do later but to tide you all over Razz

Anything major that hasn't been mentioned here?

Did anyone catch that bit about Haywire Blasters at the start of the video? Looks like they cut the cost and upped it to d3 shots, but didn't do anything else to boost it
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PostSubject: Re: TTT DE video   Sat Mar 31 2018, 02:35

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because it's a lot! haha. WOuld take me hours to transcribe. I might do later but to tide you all over Razz

Anything major that hasn't been mentioned here?

Did anyone catch that bit about Haywire Blasters to begin with? Looks like they cut the cost and upped it to d3 shots, but didn't do anything else to boost it

Major....a lot of good. The dissies going down to 15 is amazing. Ravager base 80 now.

Haywire is d3 yes. 8pts.

Heat lances 12 pts but unchanged profile.

Blasters 17pts.

Liq gun - 11pts

Ossefactor - 7

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PostSubject: Re: TTT DE video   Sat Mar 31 2018, 02:36

Succubus still at 4 attacks, lmao what a joke. I guess with the Cult you can get 5 but.. that's garbage. Glaive looks to be -1 to hit, S5 (so +2 strength) and -3 AP.
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PostSubject: Re: TTT DE video   Sat Mar 31 2018, 02:37

Reavers seem exactly the same other than movement, base 2 attacks with bladevanes, Grav talons are unchanged. I know i can basically charge first turn with them now, however i don't think this is enough to fix them, there better be some biblical points drops.
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PostSubject: Re: TTT DE video   Sat Mar 31 2018, 02:38

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Succubus still at 4 attacks, lmao what a joke.  I guess with the Cult you can get 5 but.. that's garbage.  Glaive looks to be -1 to hit, S5 (so +2 strength) and -3 AP.

This is the most disappointing news from the Codex so far.

Just... why?
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PostSubject: Re: TTT DE video   Sat Mar 31 2018, 02:38

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@TheBaconPope wrote:
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because it's a lot! haha. WOuld take me hours to transcribe. I might do later but to tide you all over Razz

Anything major that hasn't been mentioned here?

Did anyone catch that bit about Haywire Blasters to begin with? Looks like they cut the cost and upped it to d3 shots, but didn't do anything else to boost it

Major....a lot of good.  The dissies going down to 15 is amazing.  Ravager base 80 now.

Haywire is d3 yes. 8pts.

Heat lances 12 pts but unchanged profile.

Blasters 17pts.

Liq gun - 11pts

Ossefactor - 7


I'm an hour 30 in of the 2 hour video and they didn't mention prices at all. Where are you getting these?
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PostSubject: Re: TTT DE video   Sat Mar 31 2018, 02:38

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Reavers seem exactly the same other than movement, base 2 attacks with bladevanes, Grav talons are unchanged. I know i can basically charge first turn with them now, however i don't think this is enough to fix them, there better be some biblical points drops.

19pts
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PostSubject: Re: TTT DE video   Sat Mar 31 2018, 02:39

@HERO wrote:
@Iveseenit wrote:
@TheBaconPope wrote:
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because it's a lot! haha. WOuld take me hours to transcribe. I might do later but to tide you all over Razz

Anything major that hasn't been mentioned here?

Did anyone catch that bit about Haywire Blasters to begin with? Looks like they cut the cost and upped it to d3 shots, but didn't do anything else to boost it

Major....a lot of good.  The dissies going down to 15 is amazing.  Ravager base 80 now.

Haywire is d3 yes. 8pts.

Heat lances 12 pts but unchanged profile.

Blasters 17pts.

Liq gun - 11pts

Ossefactor - 7


I'm an hour 30 in of the 2 hour video and they didn't mention prices at all.  Where are you getting these?

like I said, I took notes.
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PostSubject: Re: TTT DE video   Sat Mar 31 2018, 02:40

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Major....a lot of good. The dissies going down to 15 is amazing. Ravager base 80 now.

Haywire is d3 yes. 8pts.

Heat lances 12 pts but unchanged profile.

Blasters 17pts.

Liq gun - 11pts

Ossefactor - 7

In order,

Amazing,

Okay, but inferior to Blasters

Still useless

Understandable increase, puts them in line with Meltaguns, which is fair.

If there's no change in strength, still kinda sucks,

Seems about right if their mortal wounds no longer explode. If they do, I'd say it's a little undercosted, honestly.

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PostSubject: Re: TTT DE video   Sat Mar 31 2018, 02:41

how much are grav talons now? they might be worth it, they are close to the sweet spot for reavers, i was hoping 18, 19 isn't bad...
how did hellions fair, or are you transcribing from video?
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PostSubject: Re: TTT DE video   Sat Mar 31 2018, 02:42

@Iveseenit wrote:
@HERO wrote:
@Iveseenit wrote:
@TheBaconPope wrote:
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because it's a lot! haha. WOuld take me hours to transcribe. I might do later but to tide you all over Razz

Anything major that hasn't been mentioned here?

Did anyone catch that bit about Haywire Blasters to begin with? Looks like they cut the cost and upped it to d3 shots, but didn't do anything else to boost it

Major....a lot of good.  The dissies going down to 15 is amazing.  Ravager base 80 now.

Haywire is d3 yes. 8pts.

Heat lances 12 pts but unchanged profile.

Blasters 17pts.

Liq gun - 11pts

Ossefactor - 7


I'm an hour 30 in of the 2 hour video and they didn't mention prices at all.  Where are you getting these?

like I said, I took notes.

OK, for BOOK or from the video? This thread started as the video, but if you took a look at the book, then I've got a epic crap ton of questions prepped.
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PostSubject: Re: TTT DE video   Sat Mar 31 2018, 02:45

@HERO wrote:
@Iveseenit wrote:
@HERO wrote:
@Iveseenit wrote:
@TheBaconPope wrote:
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because it's a lot! haha. WOuld take me hours to transcribe. I might do later but to tide you all over Razz

Anything major that hasn't been mentioned here?

Did anyone catch that bit about Haywire Blasters to begin with? Looks like they cut the cost and upped it to d3 shots, but didn't do anything else to boost it

Major....a lot of good.  The dissies going down to 15 is amazing.  Ravager base 80 now.

Haywire is d3 yes. 8pts.

Heat lances 12 pts but unchanged profile.

Blasters 17pts.

Liq gun - 11pts

Ossefactor - 7


I'm an hour 30 in of the 2 hour video and they didn't mention prices at all.  Where are you getting these?

like I said, I took notes.

OK, for BOOK or from the video?  This thread started as the video, but if you took a look at the book, then I've got a epic crap ton of questions prepped.

Yes the book.
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PostSubject: Re: TTT DE video   Sat Mar 31 2018, 02:45

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how much are grav talons now? they might be worth it, they are close to the sweet spot for reavers, i was hoping 18, 19 isn't bad...
how did hellions fair, or are you transcribing from video?

cluster and grav are both 3
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PostSubject: Re: TTT DE video   Sat Mar 31 2018, 02:48

that's great, reavers seems very viable again.
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PostSubject: Re: TTT DE video   Sat Mar 31 2018, 02:49

@Iveseenit wrote:
@HERO wrote:
@Iveseenit wrote:
@HERO wrote:
@Iveseenit wrote:
@TheBaconPope wrote:
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because it's a lot! haha. WOuld take me hours to transcribe. I might do later but to tide you all over Razz

Anything major that hasn't been mentioned here?

Did anyone catch that bit about Haywire Blasters to begin with? Looks like they cut the cost and upped it to d3 shots, but didn't do anything else to boost it

Major....a lot of good.  The dissies going down to 15 is amazing.  Ravager base 80 now.

Haywire is d3 yes. 8pts.

Heat lances 12 pts but unchanged profile.

Blasters 17pts.

Liq gun - 11pts

Ossefactor - 7


I'm an hour 30 in of the 2 hour video and they didn't mention prices at all.  Where are you getting these?

like I said, I took notes.

OK, for BOOK or from the video?  This thread started as the video, but if you took a look at the book, then I've got a epic crap ton of questions prepped.

Yes the book.

NOW WE'RE TALKING.

To paint a greater picture of what the book looks like, they mentioned a ton of points drops.

Can you tell us which ones without exact point costs? Or else, forum moderators blah blah.

We can use this format:
Warriors down 2 points, or something

Question on everyone's minds: Are Trueborn still in the codex, what about Bloodbirdes?

Can you confirm that Venoms are down 20 points?

What about Raiders?

Same with Razorwings and bigbird, did the bigbird change it's Dark Scythes to something worthwhile? I'm really curious on our aircraft.
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PostSubject: Re: TTT DE video   Sat Mar 31 2018, 02:49

Transport capacity is remains unchanged?

What wargear options does the Archon have?

What is the warlord trait for Obsidian Rose? What about the relic for Black Heart?

PfP and Drugs remain the same?

Whats the new statline on Talos?
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PostSubject: Re: TTT DE video   Sat Mar 31 2018, 02:56

Curious on a few things if you don't mind
1) Str of liquefier still 3?

2) Did medusae or Lhamayaens see any changes?

3)Kabalites special/heavy weapon rules still the same or have they changed?

4) Did Hellions get cheaper?
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PostSubject: Re: TTT DE video   Sat Mar 31 2018, 02:57

@HERO wrote:


NOW WE'RE TALKING.

To paint a greater picture of what the book looks like, they mentioned a ton of points drops.

Can you tell us which ones without exact point costs?  Or else, forum moderators blah blah.

We can use this format:
Warriors down 2 points, or something

Question on everyone's minds:  Are Trueborn still in the codex, what about Bloodbirdes?

Can you confirm that Venoms are down 20 points?

What about Raiders?

Same with Razorwings and bigbird, did the bigbird change it's Dark Scythes to something worthwhile?  I'm really curious on our aircraft.

Opps...ok I will keep to indirect pts.

No trueborn or bloodbrides. Wyches stats got a bump and Kabs can take 2 specials at 10 now.

Cannons went down by 5 each. base went down 10.

Raider went down 30 and lances remain the same.

price drops for the flyers but looked to be the same otherwise. I could see no big difference. Sychtes remain at d3. fighter down 10. bomber down 19.
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PostSubject: Re: TTT DE video   Sat Mar 31 2018, 03:01

@Bad-baden-baden wrote:
Transport capacity is remains unchanged?

What wargear options does the Archon have?

What is the warlord trait for Obsidian Rose? What about the relic for Black Heart?

PfP and Drugs remain the same?

Whats the new statline on Talos?

transports capacity did not change - Sad

His options looked the same though I think I missed the fact he didn't have blaster anymore.  Though index is still an option?

rose - +1 to dmg characteristic of ANY weapon they are carrying.

black heart - archon only. re-roll wounds of 1 aura.

PfP and drugs are exact same.

Talos has +1 attack now.  Scalpels only confer +1 now total.  New powerfist equilivant option.  I honeslty don't remember his toughness value though and feel stupid for glossing over that.
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PostSubject: Re: TTT DE video   Sat Mar 31 2018, 03:02

@Iveseenit wrote:
@Bad-baden-baden wrote:
Transport capacity is remains unchanged?

What wargear options does the Archon have?

What is the warlord trait for Obsidian Rose? What about the relic for Black Heart?

PfP and Drugs remain the same?

Whats the new statline on Talos?

transports capacity did not change - Sad

His options looked the same though I think I missed the fact he didn't have blaster anymore.  Though index is still an option?

rose - +1 to dmg characteristic of ANY weapon they are carrying.

Ahhhhhh the toughness was all I really wanted to know, haha
Thanks for the info, this is great!


How about wracks? Point reductions?

black heart - archon only. re-roll wounds of 1 aura.

PfP and drugs are exact same.

Talos has +1 attack now.  Scalpels only confer +1 now total.  New powerfist equilivant option.  I honeslty don't remember his toughness value though and feel stupid for glossing over that.
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PostSubject: Re: TTT DE video   Sat Mar 31 2018, 03:04

@GrinNfool wrote:
Curious on a few things if you don't mind
1) Str of liquefier still 3?

2) Did medusae or Lhamayaens see any changes?

3)Kabalites special/heavy weapon rules still the same or have they changed?

4) Did Hellions get cheaper?

str is the same.

I didn't notice any real changes to the court to be honest. Other than in matched play you have to have an archon and max 4 units per detachment. same with beasts. 1 master require and max 3 units.

lhameans are half price though? Meds down 7.

Kabs = every 5 get a special.

hellions are 3 cheaper but still suck compared to reavers.
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PostSubject: Re: TTT DE video   Sat Mar 31 2018, 03:05

@Bad-baden-baden wrote:


How about wracks? Point reductions?


down 1 pt. weapons also got cheaper.
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PostSubject: Re: TTT DE video   Sat Mar 31 2018, 03:06

Units I'm itching to know about:

Hellions: what happened to get them such rave reviews? They're so awful right now.

Cronos and/or Talos: what is the suite of buffs they saw? Damage? Durability?

Haemonculus/wrack weapons: all hideously samey in the index any new or interesting roles opening up?
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PostSubject: Re: TTT DE video   Sat Mar 31 2018, 03:07

HQs down in price?

Any special weapon changes note worthy? For example, PGLs or Shock Prows, or anything you find exciting?

And to confirm: Voidraven Dark Sycthes are still D3 damage? lol top tier trash weapon confirmed
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