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PostSubject: Re: TTT DE video   Sat Mar 31 2018, 04:33

djinn blade - +2 attacks with huskblade. end of fight, roll a 1 and take a MW
Helm of Spite - Deny like psyker. If deny works the psyker takes perils.
Nightmare doll - Hemo only i think. 4+ FNP
Animus Vitae - 6 in grenade, d3 mortals. +1 PfP to units within 6 for turn.
Triptch Whip - +3 attack agoniser
Writ of living muse - Black heart archon - re-roll 1s to wound aura
Obsidean Veil - Flayed skull archon - +4 invlu if shadowfield fails for rest of game.
phial bouquet - Strife - Random drug every round
Blood Glaive - Red Grief - +3 str, -3ap, d3, no -1 to hit
Vexator mask - Prophets - No overwatch, unit within 6 fights Last.
Spirit Sting - Dark Creed - 3 shot stinger pistol, Ap -4. Ignores invluns
Flensing blade - Coven of Twelve - +1 wound hemo tools, -2 Ap, d3 dmg. 3 dmg vs characters
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PostSubject: Re: TTT DE video   Sat Mar 31 2018, 04:36

@Iveseenit wrote:

Helm of Spite - Deny like psyker.  If deny works the psyker takes perils.


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PostSubject: Re: TTT DE video   Sat Mar 31 2018, 04:37

Warlords -
Posioned tongue - warlord LD within 12
Obsidean rose - +1 dmg to warlords weapons
Flayed Skull - +1 str and +1 attck if charge/charged/heroic

Strife - 6+ equals 3 hits
Red Grief - +1 invul
Cursed Blade - 6+ reflect

Prophets - D3 Cp's back
Dark Creed - fight phase, 2d6 vs ld = a MW, (units within 3 i think?)
Coven of 12 - reduce dmg by 1
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PostSubject: Re: TTT DE video   Sat Mar 31 2018, 04:39

@Iveseenit wrote:

Red Grief - +1 invul

3++ Sucubi is pretty dope
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PostSubject: Re: TTT DE video   Sat Mar 31 2018, 04:40

Just finished watching the bols vid
Interesting how a raider with splinter racks and lance is 25pts cheaper than index, that's great news, venom's looking solid as well, in fact everything looks pretty solid.
Kinda bummed about hellions however at 14pts they seem like they can still be made to work.
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PostSubject: Re: TTT DE video   Sat Mar 31 2018, 04:40

The relics look good. for the first time ever the Djinn blade might be worth taking!
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PostSubject: Re: TTT DE video   Sat Mar 31 2018, 04:40

Are haemonculus tools still 1 point?
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PostSubject: Re: TTT DE video   Sat Mar 31 2018, 04:41

Just to clarify - did the archite glaive actually get bumped to D3 dmg, or do you have to take the relic glaive to get that?
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PostSubject: Re: TTT DE video   Sat Mar 31 2018, 04:44

@Bad-baden-baden wrote:
Are haemonculus tools still 1 point?
I didnt write that one down, must of been 1 or 0.
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PostSubject: Re: TTT DE video   Sat Mar 31 2018, 04:44

@krayd wrote:
Just to clarify - did the archite glaive actually get bumped to D3 dmg, or do you have to take the relic glaive to get that?

80% sure it went to D3.
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PostSubject: Re: TTT DE video   Sat Mar 31 2018, 04:47

Do you happen to know anything about Splinter pods? Same or changed? Any cool stratagems you can share?
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PostSubject: Re: TTT DE video   Sat Mar 31 2018, 04:53

@Bad-baden-baden wrote:
Do you happen to know anything about Splinter pods? Same or changed? Any cool stratagems you can share?

pods are the same if I remember right.


1 CP - pick a unit and give them +1 PfP chart
1Cp - toss a grenade and turn it into haywire doing d3 mortal to vehicle
1CP - the wych cult fly over mortals that has been talked about already up above.
1CP - monster or grot regrow d3 wounds
1CP - Fire and Fade
2CP - fall back and shoot
2Cp - coven unit re-roll to wound in fight phase
1CP - PGL hit, 3d6 vs ld = d3 MWs
2CP - poisoned tongue - 3 unit redploy
1CP - cursed blade - 4+ if in cover and get charged to cause d3 MW
2CP - Red grief - 6in consolidate towards your vehicle to get back in
All others have been previewed or are not mentioning I think.
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PostSubject: Re: TTT DE video   Sat Mar 31 2018, 04:59

Can you clarify the Poisoned Tongue Stratagem please? 3 unit redeploy?
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PostSubject: Re: TTT DE video   Sat Mar 31 2018, 05:00

@FrankyMcShanky wrote:
Can you clarify the Poisoned Tongue Stratagem please?  3 unit redeploy?
it's like the CW strat phantasm. Pick up units and redploy them.
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PostSubject: Re: TTT DE video   Sat Mar 31 2018, 05:03

Nice to see a call back to Lady Maly's 5th edition ability!

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PostSubject: Re: TTT DE video   Sat Mar 31 2018, 05:08

I seem to have missed it, but whats Cursed Blades relic
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PostSubject: Re: TTT DE video   Sat Mar 31 2018, 05:10

@Bad-baden-baden wrote:
I seem to have missed it, but whats Cursed Blades relic

Oh i think that was one that has been previewed BY GW. I haven't listed any strats, etc that was already previewed.
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PostSubject: Re: TTT DE video   Sat Mar 31 2018, 05:13

@Iveseenit wrote:
@Bad-baden-baden wrote:
I seem to have missed it, but whats Cursed Blades relic

Oh i think that was one that has been previewed BY GW.  I haven't listed any strats, etc that was already previewed.


You're totally right! I forgot about it entirely!
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PostSubject: Re: TTT DE video   Sat Mar 31 2018, 05:42

Now that we have points, you can do something like this:

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1958 - 7 CP

Flayed Skull Battalion - 6 CP

HQ:
Archon = 70
Archon = 70

TROOP:
5x Warriors, Blaster = 47
Venom = 65
112

5x Warriors, Blaster = 47
Venom = 65
112

5x Warriors, Blaster = 47
Venom = 65
112

10x Warriors, 2x Blaster, Dark Lance = 104
Raider, Splinter Racks, Dark Lance = 95
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10x Warriors, 2x Blaster, Dark Lance = 104
Raider, Splinter Racks, Dark Lance = 95
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10x Warriors, 2x Blaster, Dark Lance = 104
Raider, Splinter Racks, Dark Lance = 95
209

HEAVY:
Ravager, 3x Dark Lances = 140
Ravager, 3x Dark Lances = 140
Ravager, 3x Dark Lances = 140

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Flayed Skull Air-Wing - 1 CP

FLYER:
Razorwing, 2x Dark Lances = 145
Razorwing, 2x Dark Lances = 145
Razorwing, 2x Dark Lances = 145

The loss of Trueborn is really heartfelt, but overall I'm eager to try what this is going to do to some of my enemies.

Might be worthwhile just taking an Archon from Black Heart and form a Patrol just for the counterspell btw.

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PostSubject: Re: TTT DE video   Sat Mar 31 2018, 05:43

@HERO wrote:
Now that we have points, you can do something like this:

Quote :
1958 - 7 CP

Flayed Skull Battalion - 6 CP

HQ:
Archon = 70
Archon = 70

TROOP:
5x Warriors, Blaster = 47
Venom = 65
112

5x Warriors, Blaster = 47
Venom = 65
112

5x Warriors, Blaster = 47
Venom = 65
112

10x Warriors, 2x Blaster, Dark Lance = 104
Raider, Splinter Racks, Dark Lance = 95
209

10x Warriors, 2x Blaster, Dark Lance = 104
Raider, Splinter Racks, Dark Lance = 95
209

10x Warriors, 2x Blaster, Dark Lance = 104
Raider, Splinter Racks, Dark Lance = 95
209

HEAVY:
Ravager, 3x Dark Lances = 140
Ravager, 3x Dark Lances = 140
Ravager, 3x Dark Lances = 140

+++

Flayed Skull Air-Wing - 1 CP

FLYER:
Razorwing, 2x Dark Lances = 145
Razorwing, 2x Dark Lances = 145
Razorwing, 2x Dark Lances = 145

The loss of Trueborn is really heartfelt, but overall I'm eager to try what this is going to do to some of my enemies.

Might be worthwhile just taking an Archon from Black Heart and form a Patrol just for the counterspell btw.

We can still take trueborn, no? We just pay index prices?
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PostSubject: Re: TTT DE video   Sat Mar 31 2018, 05:45

So we now have a formal tradition! Every Codex post 5th, they trim out more units!

What do we want to see go next? Any suggestions?
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PostSubject: Re: TTT DE video   Sat Mar 31 2018, 05:46

Yes we can, just pay the increased price for blasters.

Wo, really exciting stratagem for cult of red grief. 1cp, let's you're wyches consolidate back into a vehicle! Red grief may not be the best tactic for wyches but wow that's cool for wyches.

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PostSubject: Re: TTT DE video   Sat Mar 31 2018, 05:49

So we've heard the transport capacity on raiders and venoms has not changed, but is there any word on the keyword bit about them? Do they still say transport "Dukhari" infantry or did it change to <kabal>,<Cult>,or <Coven>?
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PostSubject: Re: TTT DE video   Sat Mar 31 2018, 06:00

@Lord Asvaldir wrote:
Yes we can,  just pay the increased price for blasters.

Wo, really exciting stratagem for cult of red grief. 1cp,  let's you're wyches consolidate back into a vehicle! Red grief may not be the best tactic for wyches but wow that's cool for wyches.

Are you sure that's how it works?

http://www.bolterandchainsword.com/topic/337161-codex-vs-index-lost-options/

Found all kinds of confusion here.

Meaning, can we take Trueborn still via the Index and just pay 17 pt Blasters with the OLD profile for Blasters or the NEW ones that deal D6 damage?

You're taking the entire unit try right?

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PostSubject: Re: TTT DE video   Sat Mar 31 2018, 06:01

@HERO wrote:
@Lord Asvaldir wrote:
Yes we can,  just pay the increased price for blasters.

Wo, really exciting stratagem for cult of red grief. 1cp,  let's you're wyches consolidate back into a vehicle! Red grief may not be the best tactic for wyches but wow that's cool for wyches.

Are you sure that's how it works?

http://www.bolterandchainsword.com/topic/337161-codex-vs-index-lost-options/

Found all kinds of confusion here.

Meaning, can we take Trueborn still via the Index and just pay 17 pt Blasters with the OLD profile for Blasters or the NEW ones that deal D6 damage?

You're taking the entire unit try right?

Index Trueborn datasheet, but any wargear options they have use the codex points AND rules if they exist. Basically you only use the index if it isn't in the codex.
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