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PostSubject: Re: Hmm new T-Sons info with of DE? What you think?   Tue Jan 30 2018, 19:07

@amishprn86 wrote:
No, he wont find it, but its an easy way to start a war with Xeno's and Chaos to make box sets, books and new models.

T-sons and Tzeentch is getting some love and it seems like they want to move AoS models to 40k (They just did that, like literally, the new Tzeentch Codex has AOS models in it that are 40k models now). Vortex Beast and Tzaangors if you wanted to know what was ported over.

To me, it just seems a way to better push some models and a underselling army.

To be fair Beastmen like Tzaangors have been in the 40K fluff since Rogue Trader, they even had rules back then as well, so this is just modern 40K catching back up. I think anyone who expects the new Daughters of Khaine models to get 40K rules in the Drukhari codex is wishlisting in the extreme. For starters the aesthetics don't match, if you stick a Wych next to a Witch you'll find that whilst they serve the same purpose in their respective games (close combat shock troops) and being elves theres nothing in common between them.
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PostSubject: Re: Hmm new T-Sons info with of DE? What you think?   Tue Jan 30 2018, 19:18

I dont think those will be move into DE at all, but i do think a move to push DE will happen. It is odd that they release basically Sslyth and Scourges when DE is being released tho.... Make you wonder if they are expecting players to buy them for DE conversions and they wont have to updates certain kits for longer.

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PostSubject: Re: Hmm new T-Sons info with of DE? What you think?   Tue Jan 30 2018, 21:19

The current story of 40k is "all vs chaos". I think that probably the incursion of T-sons is the way to trasladate the conflict to the Dark Eldars side ande make us participes of the principal story.

In the end we probably be the evil guys of the 40k universe, but certanly we aren't the enemy.
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PostSubject: Re: Hmm new T-Sons info with of DE? What you think?   Tue Jan 30 2018, 21:23

I see DE as the "annoying faction" others have to deal with. Like in school that one loud annoying kid that doesnt work with others and play pranks, yeah thats us.

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PostSubject: Re: Hmm new T-Sons info with of DE? What you think?   Tue Jan 30 2018, 21:27

@Rodi Sikni wrote:
The current story of 40k is "all vs chaos". I think that probably the incursion of T-sons is the way to trasladate the conflict to the Dark Eldars side ande make us participes of the principal story.

In the end we probably be the evil guys of the 40k universe, but certanly we aren't the enemy.

With the Gate opened, they didn't need it to makes Dark Eldar VS Chaos
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PostSubject: Re: Hmm new T-Sons info with of DE? What you think?   Tue Jan 30 2018, 22:24

If they ally us with Chaos somehow, when both Eldar and Chaos have the largest ally pools to draw from this side of the Imperium, I'm going to fly to Nottingham just to s*** on their desks.

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PostSubject: Re: Hmm new T-Sons info with of DE? What you think?   Tue Jan 30 2018, 22:31

@TeenageAngst wrote:
If they ally us with Chaos somehow, when both Eldar and Chaos have the largest ally pools to draw from this side of the Imperium, I'm going to fly to Nottingham just to s*** on their desks.

Haven't you planned that vindicative action a long time ago ? Do GW still have a chance of avoiding your vengeful hemorrhoids ?

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PostSubject: Re: Hmm new T-Sons info with of DE? What you think?   Tue Jan 30 2018, 22:32

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@TeenageAngst wrote:
If they ally us with Chaos somehow, when both Eldar and Chaos have the largest ally pools to draw from this side of the Imperium, I'm going to fly to Nottingham just to s*** on their desks.

Haven't you planned that vindicative action a long time ago ? Do GW still have a chance of avoiding your vengeful hemorrhoids ?

He has eaten hot tacos for 3 months for this.
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PostSubject: Re: Hmm new T-Sons info with of DE? What you think?   Wed Jan 31 2018, 00:30

I believe my previous threat involved mailing them a copy of the codex rubberbanded to a dog turd. Both are on the table. It is avoidable but my demands are pretty extreme:

1: Bring back Fantasy, or, barring that, give all the old Fantasy races proper rules in Age of Sigmar. Consolidating all their heroes into a basic leader character and merely printing points while not giving legacy armies the bonuses of modern armies doesn't count.

2: Remove the Ynnari, or at least give them the same treatment the Tomb Kings got.

3: Stop advancing the lore for the sake of advancement. Write cool things when cool things come to mind, don't just throw darts at the wall every month.

4: Give us armor values and facings back.

5: Give Dark Eldar something to do other than be worse than all the other Eldar factions.

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PostSubject: Re: Hmm new T-Sons info with of DE? What you think?   Wed Jan 31 2018, 00:42

I dont mind vehicles having a Toughness at all. BUT they should have done it a bit differently. If basic vehicles rule (in the BRB not datasheet crap) "Weapon Strength is less than Toughness, you need 6's to wound" would have been better. Melta/Lance/Plasma etc.. would be rewarded for being taken and not just spam S5/S6 in mass.

I wish there was a Pinning rules instead of Moral rules, an unmodified LD roll that can not be modified. If you were shot at and took 50% casualties, you are -1 to shoot, -2 to move, and can not advance.

Removing models b.c you.. removed models is stupid imo, i;d rather have a penalty.

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PostSubject: Re: Hmm new T-Sons info with of DE? What you think?   Wed Jan 31 2018, 06:54

I still love the idea of terror tactics being viable for our army, it would be a completely unique style to centre an entire army around making your opponent run away. Bring back the old Hell/Vexator Mask and make phatasm grenades stackable for a start.

Would require a bit of balancing, but with the new morale system it would actually be a viable killing strat.
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PostSubject: Re: Hmm new T-Sons info with of DE? What you think?   Wed Jan 31 2018, 07:39

@Vindicavi wrote:
I still love the idea of terror tactics being viable for our army, it would be a completely unique style to centre an entire army around making your opponent run away. Bring back the old Hell/Vexator Mask and make phatasm grenades stackable for a start.

Would require a bit of balancing, but with the new morale system it would actually be a viable killing strat.

My most frequent opponents are orks (still has comissars who deal d3 mortal wounds) and nids (also immune to morale)
Even the new custodus make imperials immune to morale again after the comissars got nerfed became detrimental to normal guard squads.
Terror tactics are good but should not be the main focus of our army since it does not work against a number of armies.
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PostSubject: Re: Hmm new T-Sons info with of DE? What you think?   Wed Jan 31 2018, 19:57

I wouldn't suggest it be the main focus but having it as a potential build strat would be a fantastic addition to the dex imo
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