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salogaz228
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PostSubject: Re: Apparently... we're next.   Mon Feb 12 2018, 16:58

Not sure if it's been here but i've just found this in some DE fan group.

"Don't take it too seriously but a man says he had seen our codex and rumors this"

Kabals:
Archon Vraesque Malidrach
let's make up some stats:
>bs2+/ws2+/S3/T3/W5/A5/L10/5+6++
shadow field, hit and run, bubble to reroll splinter shots of 1. PFP, combat drugs
Weapons: Blaster, husk-spear: +1A, S-user, AP-3, DD3

Wych cults:
new biker HQ:
>bs2+/ws2+/S3/T4/W5/A5/L8/4+5++
Matchless swiftness, combat drugs, nearby reavers are given No Escape special rule, hit and run
weapons: Agoniser, Blaster

Haemonculus covens:
new haemi
>bs2+/ws2+/S3/T5/W5/A4/Ld8/6+4++
PFP, increase Inured to Pain saves to 5+ for all HAEMONCULUS COVEN units in range, +1T to all HAEMONCULUS COVEN units in range
weapons: haemonculus tools, hexrifle
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PostSubject: Re: Apparently... we're next.   Mon Feb 12 2018, 17:09

"Let's make up some stats?" Biker character? Doesn't sound legit to me. Link for those rumors?

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PostSubject: Re: Apparently... we're next.   Mon Feb 12 2018, 17:10

@salogaz228 wrote:
Not sure if it's been here but i've just found this in some DE fan group.

"Don't take it too seriously but a man says he had seen our codex and rumors this"

Kabals:
Archon Vraesque Malidrach
let's make up some stats:
>bs2+/ws2+/S3/T3/W5/A5/L10/5+6++
shadow field, hit and run, bubble to reroll splinter shots of 1. PFP, combat drugs
Weapons: Blaster, husk-spear: +1A, S-user, AP-3, DD3

Wych cults:
new biker HQ:
>bs2+/ws2+/S3/T4/W5/A5/L8/4+5++
Matchless swiftness, combat drugs, nearby reavers are given No Escape special rule, hit and run
weapons: Agoniser, Blaster

Haemonculus covens:
new haemi
>bs2+/ws2+/S3/T5/W5/A4/Ld8/6+4++
PFP, increase Inured to Pain saves to 5+ for all HAEMONCULUS COVEN units in range, +1T to all HAEMONCULUS COVEN units in range
weapons: haemonculus tools, hexrifle

Were these by any chance shown to him by a marching band of pink elephants? Wink
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PostSubject: Re: Apparently... we're next.   Mon Feb 12 2018, 17:26

Know why it is not real?
Because an arcon which can take drugs (which we all want) using an ap-3 weapon that does d3 damage (we all want), with a rerolling splinter weapon bubble (we all want), backed up by a bike character (we all want) both giving out hit and run (we all want) makes too much sense, and would make the DE fanbase happy, without being too strong.

So no way.

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PostSubject: Re: Apparently... we're next.   Mon Feb 12 2018, 18:01


@salogaz228 wrote:
Not sure if it's been here but i've just found this in some DE fan group.

"Don't take it too seriously but a man says he had seen our codex and rumors this"

Kabals:
Archon Vraesque Malidrach
let's make up some stats:
>bs2+/ws2+/S3/T3/W5/A5/L10/5+6++
shadow field, hit and run, bubble to reroll splinter shots of 1. PFP, combat drugs
Weapons: Blaster, husk-spear: +1A, S-user, AP-3, DD3

Wych cults:
new biker HQ:
>bs2+/ws2+/S3/T4/W5/A5/L8/4+5++
Matchless swiftness, combat drugs, nearby reavers are given No Escape special rule, hit and run
weapons: Agoniser, Blaster

Haemonculus covens:
new haemi
>bs2+/ws2+/S3/T5/W5/A4/Ld8/6+4++
PFP, increase Inured to Pain saves to 5+ for all HAEMONCULUS COVEN units in range, +1T to all HAEMONCULUS COVEN units in range
weapons: haemonculus tools, hexrifle





Where have you found theese rumors?
Link?

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PostSubject: Re: Apparently... we're next.   Mon Feb 12 2018, 18:18

If we are getting a new special character I could 100% believe that Vraesque might be a candidate, considering he made an appearance in the Dark Eldar painting guide and is a pretty simple conversion.
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PostSubject: Re: Apparently... we're next.   Mon Feb 12 2018, 18:24

That husk spear would be ok if we got the soul trap back, or make the husk blade ignore invulnerable saves along with the soul trap. Wouldn't be out of the question as the assasins have a weapon that ignores invulnerables.
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PostSubject: Re: Apparently... we're next.   Mon Feb 12 2018, 18:30

@Crazy_Ivan wrote:
That husk spear would be ok if we got the soul trap back, or make the husk blade ignore invulnerable saves along with the soul trap. Wouldn't be out of the question as the assasins have a weapon that ignores invulnerables.

It's a dark eldar HQ we're talking about. He can't have better weapon than a race millions years younger.
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PostSubject: Re: Apparently... we're next.   Mon Feb 12 2018, 18:37

@dumpeal wrote:
@Crazy_Ivan wrote:
That husk spear would be ok if we got the soul trap back, or make the husk blade ignore invulnerable saves along with the soul trap. Wouldn't be out of the question as the assasins have a weapon that ignores invulnerables.

It's a dark eldar HQ we're talking about. He can't have better weapon than a race millions years younger broom.

Fixed that for you. Wink
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PostSubject: Re: Apparently... we're next.   Mon Feb 12 2018, 18:38

Random thought, but assuming these HQ's were to be real, how would people go about distributing drugs in their lists?
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PostSubject: Re: Apparently... we're next.   Mon Feb 12 2018, 18:42

Mmm... GK got the GranMaster on Dreadknight, which is NOT a new model, but a new profile of the Codex.

Let's hope!
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PostSubject: Re: Apparently... we're next.   Mon Feb 12 2018, 19:11

@Mikoneo wrote:
Random thought, but assuming these HQ's were to be real, how would people go about distributing drugs in their lists?

Depend on their movement value. If good, I'd go with the +1 str for the archon
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PostSubject: Re: Apparently... we're next.   Mon Feb 12 2018, 19:26

So time to jazz up a reaver, make a husk spear, and a haemy with a... hexrifle? *shudder* maybe pass on that one...
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PostSubject: Re: Apparently... we're next.   Mon Feb 12 2018, 19:41

Hmm well that's gonna create Foot slogging kabalite armies ... And one could only hope that the power from pain table includes shooting as part of it and not just cc ...
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PostSubject: Re: Apparently... we're next.   Mon Feb 12 2018, 19:45

@Skulnbonz wrote:
Know why it is not real?
Because an arcon which can take drugs (which we all want) using an ap-3 weapon that does d3 damage (we all want), with a rerolling splinter weapon bubble (we all want), backed up by a bike character (we all want) both giving out hit and run (we all want) makes too much sense, and would make the DE fanbase happy, without being too strong.

So no way.

Vraesque started as reaver, he could still have some drugs

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PostSubject: Re: Apparently... we're next.   Mon Feb 12 2018, 20:24

An Archon with Ld 10? With combat drugs to get him up to potentially 12?
That's the real tell that this is fake. Characters, with very few exceptions, max out at Ld 9, and having Ld 10 would put him on the level of the Big Smurf, and have the largest Ld characteristic of any Eldar Character.

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PostSubject: Re: Apparently... we're next.   Mon Feb 12 2018, 20:40

press if you wish to disappoint

Sry for misinformating you guys, but unfortunately those "rumors" that our DE players posted were just a wishlist.
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PostSubject: Re: Apparently... we're next.   Mon Feb 12 2018, 21:33

Not too surprising, character on a jetbike just sounds too good to be true.

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PostSubject: Re: Apparently... we're next.   Mon Feb 12 2018, 21:38

@TheBaconPope wrote:
An Archon with Ld 10? With combat drugs to get him up to potentially 12?
That's the real tell that this is fake. Characters, with very few exceptions, max out at Ld 9, and having Ld 10 would put him on the level of the Big Smurf, and have the largest Ld characteristic of any Eldar Character.

The entire Necron army has Ld10. I could certainly see a special character having it, especially if they don't have a way to pass it on to squads.
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PostSubject: Re: Apparently... we're next.   Mon Feb 12 2018, 21:50

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The entire Necron army has Ld10
Those are the biggest exception to that rule, but that's their Morale schtik.

My point more so being that Ld10 is very rare, saved for centerpiece modela (Primarchs for example).

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PostSubject: Re: Apparently... we're next.   Mon Feb 12 2018, 23:07

@TheBaconPope wrote:
Quote :
The entire Necron army has Ld10
Those are the biggest exception to that rule, but that's their Morale schtik.

My point more so being that Ld10 is very rare, saved for centerpiece modela (Primarchs for example).

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PostSubject: Re: Apparently... we're next.   Yesterday at 09:45

On the topic of a bike/skyboard Archon, is that something in the fluff ? wh40k.lexicanum describes Lord Vreasque's start as "Beginning his long and dishonorable career as a lowly Reaver". Helions being even lower status than the bike. With that, would a Archon ever get on one if it's deemed with such low regards. A succubus I can buy, but a Archon ? Feels like that would put a target on the Archons back with the backstabby political systems in the dark city. Just curious of where the idea came from, the game mechanics and wishing or from the fluff.
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PostSubject: Re: Apparently... we're next.   Yesterday at 10:10

@Von Snabel wrote:
On the topic of a bike/skyboard Archon, is that something in the fluff ? wh40k.lexicanum describes Lord Vreasque's start as "Beginning his long and dishonorable career as a lowly Reaver". Helions being even lower status than the bike. With that, would a Archon ever get on one if it's deemed with such low regards.

Wouldn't it depend on the Archon in question?

If he has a noble family then I can see him considering such things beneath him, but what about for figures like Baron Sathonyx - who rose up from the bottom? If they got where they were by their skill on a bike or skyboard, would they really be so eager to stop using it?

@Von Snabel wrote:
Just curious of where the idea came from, the game mechanics and wishing or from the fluff.

In the 3rd edition DE book, Archons could take Jetbikes and Skyboards.

Wings are more wishlist-y, but given that the fluff has said Archons ask Haemonculi for all kinds of weird crap, functional wings hardly seem out of the question for at least a few oddballs.
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PostSubject: Re: Apparently... we're next.   Yesterday at 10:18

I love the idea of a Skyboard archon on a custom Skyboard, with missiles strapped to the bottom and tl blasters, flying into battle with a powered Hellglave.

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PostSubject: Re: Apparently... we're next.   Yesterday at 11:15

@The Shredder wrote:

Wouldn't it depend on the Archon in question?

If he has a noble family then I can see him considering such things beneath him, but what about for figures like Baron Sathonyx - who rose up from the bottom? If they got where they were by their skill on a bike or skyboard, would they really be so eager to stop using it?


All in agreement there. Just the feeling that I've gotten from the fluff is that the more prestine Archons must play the polititcal game, and can't afford such habits, socially speaking. Now, I've only read on wikis, first part of the Path of the Dark Eldar book and 5th and 7th codex. So my interpretation may be at fault here.
I absolutly agree that character such as The Baron would keep his board. What would be he without it.

@The Shredder wrote:

In the 3rd edition DE book, Archons could take Jetbikes and Skyboards.

Ahh, righi-o! That was before my time but then I see where it's from. Thanks!

So just time to wait and hope that with these "No model- no rules"-theme GW will produce some swell HQ with options for days. Buuuut wont hold my breath.
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